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Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#191
post #154

As usual with Teenage Engineering, I love the hardware design, but this aspect of the software is a letdown: > rabbit OS operates apps on our secured cloud, so you don’t have to. Log into the apps you’d like rabbit to use on your system through the rabbit hole to relay control. You only need to do this once per app. So things don't run on the device, but on the cloud. Unfortunate.

"operates apps so you don't have to" -> "to use, use a different PC, open the browser app and log into spotify" so... you also still have to have another PC and operate apps on it.

Seems to be only for login/setting up OAuth.

Honestly that's the best solution for a V1, in terms of security, privacy, speed of development, etc.

The target audience is early adopters, that definitely isn't people who want to use Spotify/Uber/etc but don't have another device.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#192
Has any startup succeeded by starting out offering shiny hardware running innovative new software, all of which they have to develop?

It seems like a fatal dilution of focus to have to worry about the design and logistics of a fancy dumb terminal widget when you also have to get the software/AI/app integration stuff right.

Just make an app with text and voice interaction. Accept that the thing in our pockets with a screen and an internet connection is going to be a smartphone. You will not build an own-hardware moat with these weird little bits of e-waste.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#193

These demos are always the same: “ find me the closest pizza” Who actually interacts with a device like that? Is it an important problem enough to be paying $199 while I can do the same thing (often even better) with my phone?

People that buy Alexas in droves.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#195
post #160

I have no idea whatsoever about what this device is doing but I'm pretty sure it should have been just a mobile app

Kind of a hilarious take if you watch the keynote where significant time and a moving backdrop are devoted to highlighting the miasma of navigating across 100 apps on a smartphone. Decrying "just install another app" is a big part of the raison d'etre for the whole product!

no it really should have been an app, this thing is stupid.

"phones have too many apps so buy this toy device and also keep your phone because you're still going to need it to do most things"

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#197
This may just be the shittiest product website I've ever seen. It conveys absolutely nothing of value about the product. What problem does it solve?

It's just "ooh, pretty pictures, buttons and camera." Seriously? I'm supposed to trust a product from a company that can't even tell me what it's about without making me sit through a 25-minute keynote? Are they out of their minds?

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#200
I know the $1000 device in my pocket is capable of all the things they implemented ... do I just wait for a Rabbit clone app? Or will Apple/Google just enhance their native offerings to include this sort of thing. I absolutely agree with the premise. Our phones are just mini-desktop computers accumulating unused programs that don't integrate with each other storing random bits of data all over itself. The whole device seems to be a more polished semantic web that we were promised years ago albeit being brute forced by AI because interop never evolved.
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