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Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

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Post by jghn »

echelon wrote: post #160
cubefox wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know how censorship and Balkanization work on Bluesky? On Mastodon this was quite extreme, as entire servers can block each other, without any involvement from the individual user.

This is why p2p will always be superior to federation. I don't want others making decisions for me. I'm okay with consuming an upstream block/filter list, but I ultimately want executive control over it.

The thing that still grinds my gears about Mastodon is the concept of search is inherently broken. In Twitter I can search whatever and see all the old public posts from the start of time. On Mastodon, I'll get ... some stuff.

With your model that wouldn't be an issue.

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Post by campfireshuffle »

mattl wrote: post #5

If anyone from Twitter I know is reading this and wants an invite code ask me via Mastodon DM or email.

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Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

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Post by notnullorvoid »

mullingitover wrote: post #98

Bluesky's big selling point is that it's an open protocol, but it's their own homegrown protocol that nobody else is using. Meanwhile Threads has working ActivityPub[1]. You can see threads posts on Mastodon. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/13/24000120/threads-meta-ac...

I'm fine with a new protocol, what I dislike is they marketed it as a main feature and still haven't shipped what was promised. So far Bluesky is just as centralized as Twitter.

ActivityPub has some big flaws. We need something better, but I don't think I trust the Bluesky team to deliver that anymore.

Re: Posts, profiles, and user search are now available without login

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Post by k12sosse »

rconti wrote: post #127
mminer237 wrote: post #48

It still doesn't seem to have a public feed though, so you can only view individual posts. I will say as someone has an invite: you're not missing out on anything. It definitely has far less activity than either Twitter or Threads, but somehow it also just has worse content. You would think they were invite-only to keep the quality high, but everything is either furry porn or hate-filled rage bait, neither of which I…

I get that this rage bait works on some percent of the population. 20%? 50%? 75%? What that leaves unanswered is, why aren't these platforms smart enough to adapt to what actual individuals react to? Sure, they picked the most successful single formula, but you'd think they'd want to increase the platform's engagement at the margins rather than just milking one approach for all it's worth.

I suspect these megalithic corpos are actually in it to make a dollar, no matter the cost to reputation or society. You'd think reputation would matter but it turns out once you reach the point of no return ("I keep Facebook so I can share with my grandma"), you'll come back even if there are rats chewing on your toes

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Post by raincole »

01100011 wrote: post #47
vitorgrs wrote: post #38

Since the Threads launch, I barely used BlueSky anymore. Now with the new logo, I opened again for the first time in 4 months or so, thinking that well, there was improvements? No. You still can't send videos and gifs. That's just, so basic for a social network. Let alone all the other missing things, and how awful the apps are. They are basically the worst example to show React Native. The app here on Android takes…

I can understand not supporting video yet.. that's a huge amount of data. But GIFS ? Wow...

If you don't convert GIFs on server side it would take much more data than videos. I mean much, much more. GIFs are more or less a long seqeunce of 8-bit images.

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Post by madeofpalk »

dylan604 wrote: post #180
madeofpalk wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In all fairness, while yes Bluesky so far has not yet lived up to their promise of decentralisation/federation, it’s still under development. It just hasn’t been built yet. Though, the whole blue sky stack is significantly more complicated than ActivityPub so I’m doubtful as many would actually set up “instances”.

> it’s still under development. It just hasn’t been built yet. Someone else was already first to market. Launching as an alternative that is half baked seems like really strange idea to me. Maybe they were trying to gain traction during the surge in Twitter hate, but if the thing you are asking them to jump ship to is a lesser product, only a tiny minority of them are going to stay. Half baked launches into a very we…

I agree - they're taking their sweet time. But, they very pointedly and deliberately have not launched yet. They're still very pre-alpha - this is why there's invites (not to try and create some sort of exclusivity).

Naively, I appreciate that they're not trying to rush something out just to compete, but rather are taking the time to build the right thing.

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Post by pests »

notnullorvoid wrote: post #193
mullingitover wrote: post #98

Bluesky's big selling point is that it's an open protocol, but it's their own homegrown protocol that nobody else is using. Meanwhile Threads has working ActivityPub[1]. You can see threads posts on Mastodon. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/13/24000120/threads-meta-ac...

I'm fine with a new protocol, what I dislike is they marketed it as a main feature and still haven't shipped what was promised. So far Bluesky is just as centralized as Twitter. ActivityPub has some big flaws. We need something better, but I don't think I trust the Bluesky team to deliver that anymore.

They did recently just federate the core servers. It's no longer a centralized service but blue sky itself is now a proxy for a federation of smaller servers. Users get assigned one at random(?) upon signup and the blue sky api url continues to work and towards to the underlying server.

One step at a time.

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Post by AgentME »

mullingitover wrote: post #98

Bluesky's big selling point is that it's an open protocol, but it's their own homegrown protocol that nobody else is using. Meanwhile Threads has working ActivityPub[1]. You can see threads posts on Mastodon. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/13/24000120/threads-meta-ac...

Their homegrown protocol is meant to solve real problems with Mastodon, like that your home server owns your user name and can destroy or steal your account where you have all your followers. Account portability on Mastodon requires your current home server to be online and cooperate with you if you want to transfer your account to a different server. With Bluesky, you can do it as long as you have an archive of your data. The intention is to make choosing your home server into a minor implementation detail where the user is always in control instead of a hugely consequential upfront decision as it is with Mastodon.
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