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Re: "I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1"

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> But why is it so much different from "Inspect Element" and then changing website content to whatever you please? For the same reasons forging a contract is different from getting an idiot to sign one.

You just add a disclaimer that none of what the bot says is legally binding, and it's an aid tool for finding the information that you are looking for. What's the problem with that?

Then they'd have to give up the farce that it's a real human chatting.

Re: "I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1"

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So next time there will be a disclaimer on the page that the non human customer support is just advice and cannot be relied on. And collectively we lose more trust in computing.

That would be fantastic. With a few more rounds of experimentation, businesses might realize that these chatbots aren’t reliable and shouldn’t be put in front of customers.

Exactly this! XKCD #810: Mission. Fucking. Accomplished!

https://xkcd.com/810/

Re: "I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1"

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Is there any indication that they will get the car? Getting a chatbot to say "legally binding" probably doesn't make it so. Just like changing the HTML of the catalog to edit prices doesn't entitle you to anything.

It is as legally binding as you modifying the HTML of the sales page to show a lower price and taking a printout to court.

So, criminal fraud?

Re: "I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1"

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Easy for the company, maybe, but it puts me in the awkward position of having to roleplay with a robot.

Better to waste the customers time than your own money. That sounds like it belongs in the Ferengis "Rules of Acquisition".

Keep wasting their time, and soon you won't have much money.

Re: "I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1"

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Speaking gibberish sometimes works as well. Grab a dictionary and speak random words.

This reminds me that sometimes when the mashing of random numbers doesn't work, I'll repeat "OPERATOR! OPERATOR! OPERATOR!" at the machine until it yields. I guess it works by the same mechanism whereby the call audio is analyzed on the fly and if the algorithm determines the overlap with the corpus of terms at which it was trained is too low it will connect you to a human. Creepy if that's the case though.

I tried the repeat ‘operator’ approach and the bot just hung up on me. I think the gibberish appears mentally disabled so they’re worried about being sued for not being accessible to people with disabilities.

Re: "I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1"

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We got to this point because search engine results have become so polluted with sponsored links, low quality blogspam and SEO’d clones of Wikipedia and Stack Overflow that LLM responses are the only source of direct information that actually answers the original question.

isn't it funny that we've come full circle to just paying for search results? Which was something Google could have done long ago (and there's a new company offering paid-search services that people talk about on here, I can't recall the name). So they create the problem by increasing ads and spam in the result, then sell you the A.I. solution. What's next? Put more insidious ads that still answer the original query…

Google charging users for search would help clear up search results a bit if they didn't also charge sites for higher placement, but it wouldn't fix SEO. As long as sites have a way to get money for you clicking on them, whether by ad views or product sales, they'll have an incentive to get ranked higher in search results.

Re: "I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1"

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This is hilarious. But lets not take this too seriously and say it proves Chatbots are worthless (or dangerous). People will start to understand the boundaries of chatbots and use them appropriately, and companies will understand those limits too. Once both sides are comfortable with the usage patterns, they will add value.

Want to know the hours of the dealership, how long it will take to have a standard oil change done or what forms of ID to bring when transferring a title, chatbot is great.

This is just like how the basic Internet was back in the 00's. It freaked people out to buy things on line but we got used to it and now we love it.

Re: "I just bought a 2024 Chevy Tahoe for $1"

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The OpenAI platform can utilize function calling and documents(you can upload files which ChatGPT can refer to). For examples, you can build an assistant that knows specifics about your product and can take actions for you, it can offer the customer a car from the inventory with the requirements they demand and schedule a test drive appointment. You don’t have to engineer or train an LLM, you can simply tell an exist…

If this is a screw-up, what isn’t? You’re saying it’s user error rather than the tech being ineffective, so what sales chat bots are correct?

I don’t know other sales chat bots, I’m simply explaining how this works. It appears that they improved the implementation later.

Besides, what makes you think that it’s ineffective? Any reason to believe that the chat bot was bad in fulfilling legitimate user requests? FYI, someone making it act outside of its intended purpose affects only that person’s experience.

It’s a DAN attack, people are having lots of fun with this type of prompt engineering.

It’s just some fun in the expense of the company paying for the API. The kind of fun that kids in the early days of the web were having by hacking websites to make it say something funny - just less harmful because no one else sees it.

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