Feels more like an Apple post "the best fastest blabla-est". How about making it available to try without the fluff?
At least Apple would call it iParrot or iSomething. :D
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Re: Gemini AI
#192One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…
> to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI
These lines are for the stakeholders as opposed to consumers. Large backers don't want to invest in a company that has to rush to the market to play catch-up, they want a company that can execute on long-term goals. Re-assuring them that this is a long-term goal is important for $GOOG.
Re: Gemini AI
#193What's the difference between Bard and Gemini? One is text and the other is multi-modal?
Bard will run a fine tuned Pro version of the Gemini model based on other comments.
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#194It's truly astounding to me that Google, a juggernaut with decades under its belt on all things AI, is only now catching up to OpenAI which is on all camps a fraction of its size.
This is Android moment for Google. They will go full throttle on it till they become dominant in every respect.
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Re: Gemini AI
#195Lots of comments about it barely beating GPT-4 despite the latter being out for a while, but personally ill be happy to have another alternative, if nothing else for the competition. But I really dislike these pre-availability announcements - we have to speculate and take their benchmarks for gospel for a week, while they get a bunch of press for unproven claims. Back to the original point though, ill be happier havi…
Is it not already available via bard?
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Why? Google is an international organization and its technical employment is heavily skewed towards these two origins. Also Americans come from other places? Regardless of their last name… What is this about?
Are you trying to find a controversy?
They're making an observation. As you noted, there is a lot of technical people that are immigrants at Google. It is stunning because it implies native born americans are dramatically under represented. Inclusion means include everyone. This is just as bad as CEOs at most companies being all of european ancestry.
Re: Gemini AI
#197Gemini Nano sounds like the most exciting part IMO. IIRC Several people in the recent Pixel 8 thread were saying that offloading to web APIs for functions like Magic Eraser was only temporary and could be replaced by on-device models at some point. Looks like this is the beginning of that.
Other phones already do this on-device
Re: Gemini AI
#198Good. The only model that is a proper competitor to GPT-4 and at least this time it will have high availability unlike OpenAI with constant outages every month.
They seem to have already caught up to OpenAI with their first model.
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#199Re: Gemini AI
#200One observation: Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly, like it's trying too hard to emphasize how long they've been doing AI (which is a weird look when the currently publicly available SOTA model is made by OpenAI, not Google). A better look would simply be to sh…
To add to my comment above: Google DeepMind put out 16 videos about Gemini today, the total watch time at 1x speed is about 45 mins. I've now watched them all (at >1x speed).
In my opinion, the best ones are:
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI - variety of video/sight capabilities
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPwU1FNhMOA - understanding direction of light and plants
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D64QD7Swr3s - multimodal understanding of audio
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tRc_5-8G4 - helping a user with complex requests and showing some of the 'thinking' it is doing about what context it does/doesn't have
* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPiOP_CB54A - assessing the relevance of scientific papers and then extracting data from the papers
My current context: API user of OpenAI, regular user of ChatGPT Plus (GPT-4-Turbo, Dall E 3, and GPT-4V), occasional user of Claude Pro (much less since GPT-4-Turbo with longer context length), paying user of Midjourney.
Gemini Pro is available starting today in Bard. It's not clear to me how many of the super impressive results are from Ultra vs Pro.
Overall conclusion: Gemini Ultra looks very impressive. But - the timing is disappointing: Gemini Ultra looks like it won't be widely available until ~Feb/March 2024, or possibly later.
> As part of this process, we’ll make Gemini Ultra available to select customers, developers, partners and safety and responsibility experts for early experimentation and feedback before rolling it out to developers and enterprise customers early next year.
> Early next year, we’ll also launch Bard Advanced, a new, cutting-edge AI experience that gives you access to our best models and capabilities, starting with Gemini Ultra.
I hope that there will be a product available sooner than that without a crazy waitlist for both Bard Advanced, and Gemini Ultra API. Also fingers crossed that they have good data privacy for API usage, like OpenAI does (i.e. data isn't used to train their models when it's via API/playground requests).