OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman • Hacker News Board

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by 93po » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:23 PM UTC

lawn wrote: post #44

ben_w wrote: post #32

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If you already think cryptocurrency[0] and UBI[1] are good ideas, I can see why Worldcoin looks like a good idea. [0] I don't, he clearly does [1] I am not sure, I want to but suspect it will cause inflation unless done very carefully, but UBI needs biometrics to avoid Sybil attacks

A cryptocurrency is supposed to be decentralized, but how do you verify that the biometrics that are registered in Worldcoin are genuine in a decentralized manner? The answer is that you don't, and Worldcoin is just another giant ball of shit.

Both hardware and software are reviewed by third party audit

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by verall » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:24 PM UTC

philipov wrote: post #184

jampekka wrote: post #181

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Also they are blatant lies. The company can not, even by law, follow its mission if deviating from it is more profitable. One of those things we all know is bullshit but we just pretend not smelling it.

What are you talking about? Please quote the law you refer to, so we can evaluate what it really does, because I don't believe you. There is no law that forces all companies to always pick the most profitable action. Especially not for non-profit corporations.

It's a law more like Conway's Law than U.S. Law. Call it "The law of diffused corporate responsibilities".

And it doesn't mean the most profitable option will be picked, but it does ensure that easy money is not left on the table, while lots of other money is set on fire in pursuit of the personal interests of director level managers.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by 93po » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:24 PM UTC

artursapek wrote: post #18

junofan wrote: post #12

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World ID is great. I like logging into stuff without verifying my email, linking my GitHub/Twitter/whatever, or solving a bunch of CAPTCHAs when I’m on a VPN.

Biometrics are a username, not a password

Biometrics are not used as a password with worldcoin. It's used to issue what is essentially a private key.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by verall » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:25 PM UTC

darkerside wrote: post #146

coldbrewed wrote: post #114

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> After a person’s iris is captured, the biometric data never leaves the orb, they explain, instead converting it into the IrisCode, which itself is only used to create a verification of a person’s uniqueness through a convoluted system of zero-knowledge proofs and proto-danksharding. It's definitely both of the first two.

I somehow read over that drivel. I guess my mind is developing a garbage filter that operates using proto dank sharing.

*proto-dank-sharting

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by airstrike » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:26 PM UTC

andrew_ wrote: post #128

leobg wrote: post #88

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Elon is the owner. Altman is a hired CEO.

And? Musk's companies are separate business entities.

But since he owns them, he can do whatever he wants with them? Unless you're arguing he's forming a trust / cartel, which I don't think is the issue being debated here

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by 93po » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #16

boeingUH60 wrote: post #9

> nonbiding agreement.

So it's not an actual sale, he's just using OpenAI to give his startup publicity?

I mean it's a letter of intent from 2018 when OpenAI was barely even known, and he owns at most 5% of the chip startup, so probably not

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by jampekka » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:29 PM UTC

philipov wrote: post #184

jampekka wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also they are blatant lies. The company can not, even by law, follow its mission if deviating from it is more profitable. One of those things we all know is bullshit but we just pretend not smelling it.

What are you talking about? Please quote the law you refer to, so we can evaluate what it really does, because I don't believe you. There is no law that forces all companies to always pick the most profitable action. Especially not for non-profit corporations.

For-profit LLCs' purpose by law is to make profit for its shareholders. In common law systems it may be to pinpoint to a specific law, but from judgements its clear[1]. In e.g. Finland it's plain and clear in the law too.

Take time to smell the bullshit.

[1] https://www.wakeforestlawreview.com/2012/04/our-continuing-s...

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by 93po » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:31 PM UTC

galleywest200 wrote: post #105

darkerside wrote: post #90

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It actually is, if you care about where it goes

With that much money you can just pay an entire team to find places to send it for you.

He does, it's literally what the Gates Foundation is for. It isn't easy to just give away $100,000,000,000 and trust that even half of that will get meaningfully spend and that it won't actually wind up getting abused by assholes in powerful positions and making things worse. That's $14 million per day for twenty years.

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by 93po » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:33 PM UTC

infecto wrote: post #110

Culonavirus wrote: post #34

Come on. A guy mentions Sam's sister in his post and it's immediately flagged and hidden xD this site sometimes, seriously, the techbro team picking and worshipping is something else haha

Regardless if you like or dislike Altman, it is just a constant distraction to bring up his sister. I think most/all have heard it 10x by now. It’s very old, there has never been more evidence and his sister is mentally unwell. It serves no purpose to a a thread about OpenAI buying chips from a company he is invested in. Does anyone get tired by the tech bros label always being thrown out when people disagree. Can we…

Do you feel this way when people mention Elon any time Tesla is discussed?

Re: OpenAI Committed to Buying $51M of AI Chips from a Startup Backed by Sam Altman

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Post by 93po » Sun, Dec 03, 2023, 4:34 PM UTC

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #13

prvc wrote: post #11

If true, would anything about this even be untoward or unusual?

It's a conflict of interest.

Conflicts of interest happen all the time. You recuse yourself from voting or decisions where applicable. Someone on the board of OpenAI is literally leading a direct competitor.