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Orion Browser by Kagi

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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by kevincox »

freediver wrote: post #190
kevincox wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zero telemetry and fastest aren't unique features (assuming that fastest is not notably true, since every browser seems to be the fastest in some benchmark or another). Supporting both Chrome and Firefox extensions may be, but that seems like a very small niche?

Perhaps, but it is the only browser in the known universe that runs Chrome and Firefox web extensions on iOS, which is on billion devices. Zero telemetry may not be a unique feature to you, but if you care about having a privacy respecting browser it certainly is. If a browser has telemetry, which almost every other browser has, it is not privacy respecting by definition.

Ok, now that is a unique feature! Bringing that large library of extensions to a pretty locked down platform is definitely a selling point.

> Zero telemetry may not be a unique feature to you

Unique does not mean important. It means hard to find elsewhere. There are lots of browsers that have zero telemetry. Adding another one doesn't stand out. It can be an important feature of a browser but it alone won't bring many people to a new browser when they can get it elsewhere in a more established product.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by freediver »

kevincox wrote: post #191
freediver wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but it is the only browser in the known universe that runs Chrome and Firefox web extensions on iOS, which is on billion devices. Zero telemetry may not be a unique feature to you, but if you care about having a privacy respecting browser it certainly is. If a browser has telemetry, which almost every other browser has, it is not privacy respecting by definition.

Ok, now that is a unique feature! Bringing that large library of extensions to a pretty locked down platform is definitely a selling point. > Zero telemetry may not be a unique feature to you Unique does not mean important. It means hard to find elsewhere. There are lots of browsers that have zero telemetry. Adding another one doesn't stand out. It can be an important feature of a browser but it alone won't bring man…

Fair but there aren’t many really, certainly no mainstream/established ones.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by the_gipsy »

carlosjobim wrote: post #183
the_gipsy wrote: post #152

Gets stuck on major websites. The extension support sounds extremely fishy: I could install uBlock Origin, but either they are violating the Apple AppStore rules, or the extensions aren't actually working (fake API, not really implemented).

Why do you lie? A lot of the extensions are working perfectly.

You cannot ship a JavaScript runtime in the AppStore, so you cannot ship a browser that is not a safari WebView, so extensions like uBlock Origin cannot possibly run on an iOS browser.

So which is it? They cannot get away with violating the appstore terms. It must be a shim API that marks the extension as installed to some degree.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

kevincox wrote: post #191
freediver wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but it is the only browser in the known universe that runs Chrome and Firefox web extensions on iOS, which is on billion devices. Zero telemetry may not be a unique feature to you, but if you care about having a privacy respecting browser it certainly is. If a browser has telemetry, which almost every other browser has, it is not privacy respecting by definition.

Ok, now that is a unique feature! Bringing that large library of extensions to a pretty locked down platform is definitely a selling point. > Zero telemetry may not be a unique feature to you Unique does not mean important. It means hard to find elsewhere. There are lots of browsers that have zero telemetry. Adding another one doesn't stand out. It can be an important feature of a browser but it alone won't bring man…

> Unique does not mean important.

Thank you. This seems to have elicited a clarification from the other user, which I appreciate.

> It means hard to find elsewhere.

Well…"not found elsewhere". It's "the only instance within a given set".

You'll sometimes (perhaps increasingly?) encounter "more unique", "most unique", or similar. These usages dilute the meaning of 'unique' and make it more like 'unusal' or 'rare'. People who use 'unique' this way tend to resort to longer phrases to express 'unique'. Perhaps somebody knows a newer word for expressing 'unique'?

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