Rachel IS the stalker. You didn't know this ? they are one of the same.
Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
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Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
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She always has drama around her because she has some kind of rockstar vibe, she's hyper, and she has what seems like a limitless supply of enthusiasm and good will. I've seen plenty of people like that get shit all over just because they're happy when other people aren't. It doesn't mean she deserves a stalker. Just sayin'. By comparison I'm a relative nobody, but this same person who stalks Rachel has also stalked m…
It takes two to tango. That is harsh, but it is a lesson I learned from my stalker. No one deserves to be stalked, and the people that do the stalking and weird and disturbing and evil. But I caused a significant portion of the problem in my drama. Recognising that is a critical step to making them go away. Which is possible.
Of course you are mostly correct and I've expressed this same sentiment to Rachel several times. She understands it, but she doesn't "get" it yet. She's a great target because she does that stress panic thing some people whenever this guy starts messing with her. I'm sure everyone here recognizes that as a maturity/self-control thing, but it comes easier for some than others. Especially in people who have dealt with traumas it can be difficult to stave off an amygdala's hijacking and not freak out.
On the other hand, this guy really does go out of his way to harass people on his list. He still randomly mails shit-o-grams from throw-away yahoo or gmail accounts to my old email accounts. I just learned to ignore him and forward the lulz back to the abuse department of his provider.
Unfortunately Rachel, when faced with this guy on Kickstarter, thought she needed to tell her supporters what was going on. Kickstarter interpreted that as if she was responding directly to the "spammer" and turned their back.
What you say about her learning to not let him under her skin really is a critical step in making him go away. If the squeeky toy stops squeeking, it's no longer fun.
Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
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That is a comment from my stalker. Any traces on his location at Hacker News? His real name is Michael Rudra Nath aka. Jason Christopher Hughes. Can provide documentation from the authorities, case files, addresses, screen shots of his death threats, emails he sent me containing child pornography, etc. -Rachel Marone
I honestly don't care if you can provide his social security number. Can you please not drag this crap into Hacker News? (also, good god, how many aliases do you have...)
I get that you don't think this is a relevant subject for HN, but others do. I do. And I don't believe this is something petty. This is a case of an individual who has been stalking and harassing multiple people for over a decade. The police have done precious little because they, by their own admission, have no idea what to do (other than issue PPOs, which aren't enforceable over the Internet) or how to catch him. This is the state of the art. This is an /Internet/ issue because, the giant, blazing, un-asked question is:
If we want to maintain a free and open Internet, how do we then police our own egalitarian, meritocratic anarchism without relying on big brother technologies to do it or inviting governments in to intervene? If someone approaches those with the know-how to help, asking for help, and are summarily told to fuck off, who then should they turn to?
Though I'm sure they exist, I don't know any hacker types or friends of the Internet who want to just hand over ammunition to people who want to regulate the Internet more. So, please, try to take a long view on this issue, even if Rachel can be kind of a drama queen.
Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly don't care if you can provide his social security number. Can you please not drag this crap into Hacker News? (also, good god, how many aliases do you have...)
I get that you don't think this is a relevant subject for HN, but others do. I do. And I don't believe this is something petty. This is a case of an individual who has been stalking and harassing multiple people for over a decade. The police have done precious little because they, by their own admission, have no idea what to do (other than issue PPOs, which aren't enforceable over the Internet) or how to catch him. T…
Oh look, another sockpuppet.
Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
#195META OK everyone. You might have noticed that Hacker News has gone downhill lately. A common pattern is for the number one comment to be some vaguely negative and uninteresting post. In this case, it's also an inflammatory post that wrongly blames the victim. I'm friends with Rachel and the stalker dude is real. I was uselessly harassed by him because I spoke at Extreme Futurist Fest. He's real, he's crazy, and somet…
>I'm friends with Rachel and the stalker dude is real I would keep in mind the possibility that she herself is sending out this stalker material. If she has a history of generating drama, as has been suggested by others from communities she's been previously involved in, creating a stalker is the perfect device. Her account of the stalker's tactics is quite extreme: I've never heard of any case where a cyberstalker h…
Yeah, I can vouch for Rachel though. I've known her stalker personally and they were both friends of mine at one point. I get what you're saying though, and you're absolutely right: there's a lot of fucked up attention-whoring people out there. I actually wish you were right because then it would just be Rachel and nobody else. Unfortunately it's several more people than that...
Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get that you don't think this is a relevant subject for HN, but others do. I do. And I don't believe this is something petty. This is a case of an individual who has been stalking and harassing multiple people for over a decade. The police have done precious little because they, by their own admission, have no idea what to do (other than issue PPOs, which aren't enforceable over the Internet) or how to catch him. T…
Oh look, another sockpuppet.
Oh lord, I'm not a sockpuppet. Have the HN admins verify my IP address FFS. It's NOT a TOR or I2P exit node.
Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
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> She kept the vocabulary clean It may have been "clean" in the sense that little profanity was used, but it was also full of sexual slang and drug references, and clearly intended to shame Frank (not saying he didn't deserve it, but on the other hand I think a bit more tact is in order). So I could see Kickstarter considering it a violation of the "Don't post obscene, hateful, or objectionable content. If you do we…
> So I could see Kickstarter considering it a violation > of the "Don't post obscene, hateful, or objectionable > content. If you do we will remove it and suspend you." > guideline. I hate speculation like this. If Kickstarter considered it in violation of that part of their TOS, then why not explicitly state so rather than saying that she was 'encouraging spam' and that spam is in violation of the TOS? Chances are t…
According to the OP post, the violation was of Community Guidelines. Those can be found here: http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines
It was not speculation.
Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly don't care if you can provide his social security number. Can you please not drag this crap into Hacker News? (also, good god, how many aliases do you have...)
I get that you don't think this is a relevant subject for HN, but others do. I do. And I don't believe this is something petty. This is a case of an individual who has been stalking and harassing multiple people for over a decade. The police have done precious little because they, by their own admission, have no idea what to do (other than issue PPOs, which aren't enforceable over the Internet) or how to catch him. T…
(I don't know if you are a sockpuppet, but I do know you clearly haven't been around very long. Don't act surprised at accusations of sockpuppetry.)
Frankly, I'm inclined to believe those other people are wrong--as I've sketched out elsewhere, there is quite obviously nothing productive here that we can discuss. We lack useful information, we lack unbiased info, and all we can do is rage for one side or the other while producing nothing other than noise.
"If someone approaches those with the know-how to help, asking for help, and are summarily told to fuck off, who then should they turn to?"
They probably should've thought of that prior to pissing off people. You know the great thing about the internet? We have the unique opportunity to deal with people on an equal (mostly) footing.
Your damsel in distress? "Rachel", or whatever his/her/its name is? They can go to the same resources we all have, they can learn about the same subjects as we have, and uniquely empower themselves with the same know-how we have.
Even better, they can clutter up HN with threads asking for that information, without ever having to mention why they need it. Isn't that great? Isn't that productive?
Or, you know, they can waste our collective cycles trying to find somebody else to pull into their drama vortex. Funny thing about meritocracies--if you lack merit, yeah, you are expected to fuck right off.
Hell, if you really want vigilante justice, go try and summon the /b/astards and goons from SA. HN is not for dumb shit like this.
"So, please, try to take a long view on this issue, even if Rachel can be kind of a drama queen."
Don't insult us by trying to conflate internet policy with what can help out your friend (?).
The long view is that every time we get others involved in petty drama, we waste their time. Every time we stoop to engage with people who clearly get off on trolling us, we encourage them.
The internet is an anarchy, yes, and that's what's so great about it. And you know what? Maybe Rachel should consider taking a breather, or not replying to trolls, or maybe just trying to get along and be a friendly person regardless of some people being dicks.
Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
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>I'm friends with Rachel and the stalker dude is real I would keep in mind the possibility that she herself is sending out this stalker material. If she has a history of generating drama, as has been suggested by others from communities she's been previously involved in, creating a stalker is the perfect device. Her account of the stalker's tactics is quite extreme: I've never heard of any case where a cyberstalker h…
Yeah, I can vouch for Rachel though. I've known her stalker personally and they were both friends of mine at one point. I get what you're saying though, and you're absolutely right: there's a lot of fucked up attention-whoring people out there. I actually wish you were right because then it would just be Rachel and nobody else. Unfortunately it's several more people than that...
Collaborating on a web page detailing his stalking and techniques could be useful in convincing people that he's real. Sounds like he might be quite tenacious about trying to have that sort of thing removed, but it could be repeatedly reposted to different places. If folks can managed to keep "Addicted to Hate" (about the Phelps family of lawyers) on the web, it's likely possible to publish details about this fellow, assuming he's not part of some elite caste.
Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim
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It would be very odd indeed if kickstarter are in a position to deny the email quoted on Rachel's website. I.e. if it is as fake as the one above. That would be her throwing whatever reputation she has away. But I would be happier if they can confirm or deny it. No doubt they will be pressed to do so in the next few days, and a fuller picture will emerge.
> That would be her throwing whatever reputation she has away. I'm not sure anything they say would make a difference. Personally, I inclined to believe what she's saying is true, but I believe there is more to the story that impacts what has been said already. Believing that, it would be unfair of me to suggest anything one way or the other.
Sure kickstarter are likely to say that - what choices have they got? If they can;t deny, either they must say "we screwed up, we'll change", or spin it as "there's more to it than that".
The second option is by far the easier (psychologically and materially), but they may be forced to do the first eventually anyway.