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OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by qgin »

jajabinks11 wrote: post #181

Let's repeat this: current LLMs != AGI. It will never be. It could be used for knowledge store, retrieval, synthesis, and low lever reasoning. There is at least a few decades worth of work remaining for it to reach the level of AGI. The proponents in this AI gold rush are casually throwing around the term without any real thought.

I would take pretty much any bet that it's less than 10 years max

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by ikesau »

gadders wrote: post #117
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A link to 4Chan about how AGI is among us. That actually makes perfect sense. Also love the "formally declared AGI".

It doesn't read like the usual "redpill me on the earth being flat" type conspiracy theories. It claims to be from an Open AI insider. I'm not saying it's true, but it does sound plausible.

This is exactly how confirmation bias fuels conspiracy theories. No one believes anything that they think sounds implausible.

As a general rule, you should give very little thought to anonymous 4chan posts.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by epiccoleman »

golergka wrote: post #101
TillE wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPT-4 is not solving logic problems, it's doing an extremely good job of generating text based on recognizing familiar patterns. If you give it something weird and unfamiliar, it will absolutely fail.

> solving logic problems > generating text based on recognizing familiar patterns That's the same thing.

It really isn't.

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by notpachet »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #109
notpachet wrote: post #74

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I think you're still guilty of anthropomorphization here. It's understandable; we are creatures of flesh and blood and we have a hard time imagining intelligences that are not reliant on some physical form, as we are. We're tempted to think that as long as we control the physical aspect of a superintelligence's existence, we're somehow safe. You are assuming that a superintelligence will continue to rely on a physica…

I tried to assume only that the AGI recognizes that it's ability to operate is not within its own control. The steps follow are, for me, the logical next steps for insuring that it would develop that control. And it's true, I chose to ignore the possibility that it discovers something about how the universe that humans have not yet observed but my thought is that is a low probability outcome (and it is unnecessary fo…

> I chose to ignore the possibility that it discovers something about how the universe that humans have not yet observed but my thought is that is a low probability outcome

I think it's likely that it is precisely these sorts of discoveries that will augur the emergence of a superintelligence. Physics work is probably one of the first things that ML scientists will use to test advanced breakthroughs. As Altman said recently:

"If someone can go discover the grand theory of all of physics in 10 years using our tools, that would be pretty awesome." "If it can't discover new physics, I don't think it's a super intelligence."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpNG0CJRMM

Re: OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster

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Post by ric2b »

willsmith72 wrote: post #25

I still don't really know how they're measuring AGI. They all seem very sure about it, does someone have a good definition? OpenAI just say "AI systems that are generally smarter than humans". That's not measurable. What will it look like when AGI is achieved?

Something that can consider a variety of goals and take practical steps to achieve them.

The goals have to be similarly variable to humans, not just 3 or 4 types of goals. If it only supports a select few types of goals, it is not very general.

The steps it takes have to be similarly practical to those taken by humans, if the steps are just a random walk it is not very intelligent.

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