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OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by kelsey9876543 »

dereg wrote: post #13

I don’t understand why and how they didn’t consider this sort of discussion before so unceremoniously firing him. The others on the board outside Ilya need to go. I don’t consider anybody beyond forgiveness and if Ilya takes a professional lesson from this and Sam learns to be more mindful of others’ concerns, I consider this a win for all. Starting over in a new entity sounds great but would be years of setback. I h…

Why do you not think Ilya was the cheif architect of this failed coup? Im being serious everything ive seen points to him being the one responsible, there is no way he will ever stay let alone work in tech again

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by jwnin »

gkoberger wrote: post #24

I'd bet money Satya was a driver of this reversal. I genuinely can't believe the board didn't see this coming. I think they could have won in the court of public opinion if their press release said they loved Sam but felt like his skills and ambitions diverged from their mission. But instead, they tried to skewer him, and it backfired completely. I hope Sam comes back. He'll make a lot more money if he doesn't, but I…

Agreed. Somewhere in Seattle, Satya said "Now Witness the Firepower of this fully Armed and Operational Army of Lawyers."

If there ever was a time for Microsoft to leverage LCA, it is now. There's far too much on the line for them to lose the goose that has laid the golden egg.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by karmasimida »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #155
airstrike wrote: post #57

This makes sense. The board thinks they're calling the shots, but the reality is the people with the money are the ones calling the shots, always. Boards are just appointed by shareholders aka investors aka capital holders to do their bidding. The capped-profit / non-profit structure muddles that a little bit, but the reality is that entity can't survive without the funding that goes into the for-profit piece And if…

A non profit board absolutely calls the shots at a non profit, in so far as the CEO and their employment goes. Non profit boards are not beholden, structurally, to investors and there are no shareholders. No stakeholder would walk away from OpenAI for want of sam Altman. They don’t license OpenAI technology or provide funding for his contribution. They do it to get access to GPT4. There is no comparable competitor av…

Yes the board could claim OpenAI is nonprofit. But who is going to pay for the operation and salaries of its employees.

Definitely not OpenAI itself. They still need massive capital. With this drama, its future is put in serious doubt

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by arisAlexis »

jstummbillig wrote: post #47
skygazer wrote: post #26

Man, the board already looked reckless and incompetent, but this solidifies the appearance. You can do crazy ill-advised things, but if you unwaveringly commit, we’ll always wonder if you’re secretly a genius. But when you immediately backtrack, we’ll know you were a fool all along.

That seems a lot be better than doubling down on a bad mistake to save face, but we do care quite a bit about about looking strong, don't we.

How and why do you know it was a mistake without knowing the facts and reasoning? Hunch?

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by x86x87 »

voidfunc wrote: post #87

Clownshow. Holy shit, this is what happens when stupid people get put into positions of power and money and have no idea how things actually work. Fucking non-profits are the worst to deal with.

I think this is a bit harsh. Lack of experience is not necessarily stupidity.

Re: OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

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Post by qaq »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #155
airstrike wrote: post #57

This makes sense. The board thinks they're calling the shots, but the reality is the people with the money are the ones calling the shots, always. Boards are just appointed by shareholders aka investors aka capital holders to do their bidding. The capped-profit / non-profit structure muddles that a little bit, but the reality is that entity can't survive without the funding that goes into the for-profit piece And if…

A non profit board absolutely calls the shots at a non profit, in so far as the CEO and their employment goes. Non profit boards are not beholden, structurally, to investors and there are no shareholders. No stakeholder would walk away from OpenAI for want of sam Altman. They don’t license OpenAI technology or provide funding for his contribution. They do it to get access to GPT4. There is no comparable competitor av…

So they are trying to backtrack which makes them look pretty foolish for no apparent reason ?
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