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OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#193

I know I won't get a lot of love for this, but Sam is a really good person. I don't know him well, but I've known him since long before OpenAI. He's not perfect, but behind the scenes he's a genuine and upstanding person. I've met lots of wealthy smart people, and he's the only exception. He was the only person I trusted in this situation, and I'm genuinely nervous that he's no longer running OpenAI.

I have zero knowledge of Sam Altman in any shape or form and literally the only thing I know about him is that he runs (or well, ran) OpenAI.

But as a general point, you can be both a "good person" and still do bad things. Or you can be a good person in some areas, and a not-so-good person (or even horrible person) in some other areas. People are complex.

Of course it's entirely possible that Altman is just a really good person, but I wouldn't be quick to make assumptions.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#196

I wonder if this is related: https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1725618106427683149?s=20 When I googled his name I saw the same cached text show up. EDIT: As a few have pointed out, this looks like text from a tweet he quoted, and it's incorrectly showing as the description under his google search result.

Thank you -- I saw the same thing and it's about the only thing that makes sense. But why would he leave OpenAI to run for president?! He has zero chance, unless (here comes my tinfoil) OpenAI has made something dangerous / life-changing ?

EDIT: the fun for the conspiracy theory is over — it’s a cached tweet that is actually a Dean Phillips tweet Sam replied to.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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My theory as a pure AGI researcher-- it's because of the AGI lies OpenAI was built on, largely due to Sam. On one hand, OpenAI is completely (financially) premised on the belief that AGI will change everything, 100x return, etc. but then why did they give up so much control/equity to Microsoft for their money? Sam finally recently admitted that for OpenAI to achieve AGI they "need another breakthrough," so my guess i…

OpenAI's board and leadership is made up of plenty of actual AI researchers and experts (e.g. Ilya Sutskever) while Altman is at best a company caretaker. Why would he get fired for statements that they likely directed him to make?

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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post #153

My theory as a pure AGI researcher-- it's because of the AGI lies OpenAI was built on, largely due to Sam. On one hand, OpenAI is completely (financially) premised on the belief that AGI will change everything, 100x return, etc. but then why did they give up so much control/equity to Microsoft for their money? Sam finally recently admitted that for OpenAI to achieve AGI they "need another breakthrough," so my guess i…

You could easily take the complete opposite conclusion and say the "need another breakthrough" was him breaking kayfabe that cost him the job.
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