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How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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Title is misleading: it's lead chromate (that producers mix into turmeric power) that does the killing, not turmeric.

i've always felt economist is always anti-asian, particularly anti-indian.

They are more pro-West even if it means anti-everyone else; and even if it means spouting pro-war rhetoric. To me, they are a western propaganda mouthpiece.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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> propaganda that Ayurveda is a pseudoscience has been so successfully drilled into me over the decades that I have never been to an Ayurvedic doctor nor do I know of anyone who has. The propaganda/evil conspiracy angle is unconvincing here. More likely it's not propaganda, but facts and science, and it replaced centuries-old science because it is better and more accurate. For example, do you also believe there is 'p…

> geocentrism The culture that gave the world Ayurveda and the Surya Siddhanta and the Nasadiya Sukta is very different from the ones which believe that God has said that the Earth is flat or ones where God's agents on Earth harassed/murdered scientists because their theories were in conflict with their interpretation of their belief.[1][2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya_Siddhanta [2] https://en.wikipedia.or…

I actually said more than just

> geocentrism

so please quote me properly.

As a result of your failure to do so, your post has nothing to do with the one it replies to, and fails to address anything in it.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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The title of the article is blaming the plant.

It's blaming the spice that people consume because it's widely adulterated.

The point is that many people see just the headline, and from the headline they will only remember that turmeric kills people, and some of them will start avoiding turmeric due to this.

In a magazine like The Economist, which is considered to be a quality magazine, one can suspect that misleading titles might not be an accident.

If one is even slightly cynical about the attitude, which is not really that deeply hidden, use of turmeric reduces the need for medicine, which reduces profits, so it is contrary to the aims of the market-fundamentalist magazine.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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post #119

This is an incredibly misleading click-baity headline. It's not turmeric that's killing people. Unscrupulous Indian manufacturers are adding lead to turmeric as a coloring agent, and that is what is killing people.

Note to downvoters: at the time I wrote the above comment the headline did not contain the word "adulterated", and the original headline still doesn't. It just says "How to stop turmeric from killing people."

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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It is reminiscent of the Austrian antifreeze wine scandal: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Austrian_diethylene_gly... That was only a few wineries though, and it was pretty quickly caught and harshly punished. This is apparently a whole industry where the practice of poisoning consumers with lead is normalized.

On a related and lighter hearted note, back in the beginning of the 20th century the government of Hungary once mandated adding the pH indicator phenylphthalein to locally produced wine as a way to mark its origin for tax purposes. The compound is tasteless and clear at the acidic pH of wines, but would turn bright pink with some alkali added. Sounds ideal right? However soon people started to complain that the wine…

I remember doing titrations with that stuff in an organic chemistry course.

It's phenOlphthalein!

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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Do you have a link to a source with more info about this phenomenon?

Francis Fukuyama wrote a book about it, called "Trust: Social Virtues and Creation of Prosperity". Even though it's the same Fukuyama who declared the end of history the book has some insights into the phenomena [1]. [1] https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1996-0...

Thanks for this link, I grabbed the ebook for my flight today.

Re: How to stop adulterated turmeric from killing people

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's blaming the spice that people consume because it's widely adulterated.

The point is that many people see just the headline, and from the headline they will only remember that turmeric kills people, and some of them will start avoiding turmeric due to this. In a magazine like The Economist, which is considered to be a quality magazine, one can suspect that misleading titles might not be an accident. If one is even slightly cynical about the attitude, which is not really that deeply hidde…

> The point is that many people see just the headline, and from the headline they will only remember that turmeric kills people, and some of them will start avoiding turmeric due to this.

I think until there is drastic action on behalf of India, there should be a ban on import of turmeric or products containing turmeric. Or at least as consumers we should avoid turmeric made in India.

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