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Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by bluelu »

stubish wrote: post #125
xp84 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Meta wanted those who opt-out of data sharing to have to pay money, which is most likely not legal. I really don't get this attitude. I 100% endorse everyone's right to uninstall every Meta app and never use them, and to block their on-page trackers on third-party websites with an adblocker, all that. But the notion that there should be some sort of EU-protected "Right To Use Facebook For Free"... nah. Using the ap…

What you are asking for is the ability to sell your right to privacy. Laws generally don't allow you to sell or otherwise relinquish your rights, eg. selling your vote or selling yourself into slavery or accepting licenses in conflict with rights granted by local consumer laws. Some things we don't want assigned a value that can be traded. The EU has decided that the right to privacy includes not being tracked on the…

It's a double standart again.

Newspapers lobbied the EU that it s allowed for them (not sure if it was changed at the end). But if you go to a large european newspaper site (eg spiegel.de) then it explicitely asks you tha you pay to access it or you must agree to behavioral advertising. But facebook should not be allowed to do this.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by rusk »

rambambram wrote: post #179

I translated this text to English and what I don't understand is they talk about the Norwegian Data Protection Authority, quickly say something about European Privacy Council, and then go on telling: > "The Norwegian Privacy Council's decision is an instruction to the Irish Data Protection Authority to place a permanent ban on Meta's European head office in Ireland. Once this has happened, the ban will come into effe…

My guess is they implemented EU policy (all states implement their owns laws to satisfy the various EU treaties) and they have notified the Irish DPC of their findings; and naturally expect Ireland to follow suit …

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by dadadatamen »

theonlybutlet wrote: post #184
dadadatamen wrote: post #176

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You can. It's almost quite literally an effort of 30 - 60 min per day or week or month, depending on how skilled you are at keeping things convenient, meaning self-hosting services and maintaining them.

And say getting a job, when everything is through LinkedIn?

You can get the contact details of the hiring manager on the companies website or call their front desk or ask in an E-Mail to info@xyz or support@xyz or even by asking around.

and there are various ways to prove your value that are not based on networks

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by theonlybutlet »

dadadatamen wrote: post #194
theonlybutlet wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And say getting a job, when everything is through LinkedIn?

You can get the contact details of the hiring manager on the companies website or call their front desk or ask in an E-Mail to info@xyz or support@xyz or even by asking around. and there are various ways to prove your value that are not based on networks

You won't know unless you saw the listing, which these days is put on LinkedIn.

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Post by skydhash »

manuelmoreale wrote: post #161
fragmede wrote: post #129

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Then again, Netflix and YouTube Premium contradict that (for now).

Both are either introducing or toying with the idea of introducing ads. Because paid + ads still makes them more money than just a regular subscription. And since the goal is to make always more money the future is gonna be paid subs + ads.

I don’t really think this is gonna fly. It’s quite jarring having ads before or during a movie (even at cinemas, but at least it’s once in a while). With cable you could switch channels, but streaming is a more personal experience. Especially when you’re supposed to have control over the programming.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by dadadatamen »

theonlybutlet wrote: post #195
dadadatamen wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get the contact details of the hiring manager on the companies website or call their front desk or ask in an E-Mail to info@xyz or support@xyz or even by asking around. and there are various ways to prove your value that are not based on networks

You won't know unless you saw the listing, which these days is put on LinkedIn.

well, change your way of picking an employer, I guess?!

the thing is, almost everyone is or will be looking in the near future.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by Daz1 »

PostOnce wrote: post #8
Daz1 wrote: post #6

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Nobody is opposed to relevant ads on TV (I mean, not any more than they're opposed to ads in general). it's the means by which they make them relevant. No one would be cool if Facebook sent agents to your home each night to rifle through your drawers to learn about you and "tailor ads to you and make them more relevant". That's the problem, the data-collecting and spying.

"No one would be cool if Facebook sent agents to your home each night to rifle through your drawers to learn about you and "tailor ads to you and make them more relevant"

Not sure why we need a bizarre analogy here? The actual premise is straightforward and doesn't need abstraction.

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Post by layer8 »

shiroiuma wrote: post #149
Jensson wrote: post #122

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> the US just doesn't believe much in regulating businesses The US has tons of strange regulations like banning car manufacturers from selling cars themselves without a middleman or dictating what kind of showerheads are allowed to be sold.

The US is nothing if not inconsistent. The car-selling thing is due to state laws, not federal, and really the result of corruption: the dealerships are politically connected. The showerhead thing is due to environmentalism, so the US does sometimes make regulations with that impetus. There's no environmental aspect to banning targeted advertisements; it's purely social.

> There's no environmental aspect to banning targeted advertisements; it's purely social.

Arguably, the process of targeted advertisements consumes more power.

Re: Norwegian ban on Meta behavioral advertising extended to entire EU

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Post by zelphirkalt »

xp84 wrote: post #120
neontomo wrote: post #98

Context from the Norwegian article: Meta promised to ask users whether they want to opt-in, but they never did, so now they are banning these behaviours until they have come up with a better way of handling this. Furthermore, Meta wanted those who opt-out of data sharing to have to pay money, which is most likely not legal.

> Meta wanted those who opt-out of data sharing to have to pay money, which is most likely not legal. I really don't get this attitude. I 100% endorse everyone's right to uninstall every Meta app and never use them, and to block their on-page trackers on third-party websites with an adblocker, all that. But the notion that there should be some sort of EU-protected "Right To Use Facebook For Free"... nah. Using the ap…

Where can I opt-out of being tracked by them without ever having a facebook/meta account?
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