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Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

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Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#191

Ransomware-ing companies is terrorism. Knocking a hospital computer system offline is equivalent to bombing it and should be treated as such. There should be renditions/assassinations as a retaliatory measure.

It's not terrorism if done purely for profit and without a political motive. Words have meanings.

Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#192

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Well who do you think is kidnapping people? Clearly she has hired kidnappers to be able to drum up business for her negotiating services.

Id watch this movie

This movie and the 'ex-ransom negotiator now teaching 3rd grade' movie.

Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#193

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On domestic organizations, local governments, etc.?

Yes, everyone within the legal arms-length of the US is required to comply with sanctions prohibitions -- if sanctions are applied. The OFAC has a lot of power.

Huh, seems like quite a misnomer then.

Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#194
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Inflating what, sorry? Unless you have someone who's been kidnapped you're hardly in the market.

You're mistaking what someone says for the way things actually are. I'm talking about them exaggerating how in demand their own services are. The danger of this is especially acute if they do more than one thing.

I'm a software engineer & a swing dancer. Triple step! Unclear how in demand the combo of these capabilities are, but it's low.

Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#196

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> Second order effects of schemes like prohibition are much worse than the original problems. There are loads of countries that have illegalized alcohol and not devolved into levels of organized crime that the US did. Specifically, nearly every Muslim nation on earth. I feel this one example is way overplayed by advocates of legalization

Well, I guess if you think ruin or death is a valid consequence for fairly low stakes "crimes", you can implement pretty much any regime you like, assuming you've got enough boots and knives.

Nice changing of the goal post. I accept your concession.

Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#197

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Yes, everyone within the legal arms-length of the US is required to comply with sanctions prohibitions -- if sanctions are applied. The OFAC has a lot of power.

Huh, seems like quite a misnomer then.

Sanctions all apply to foreign entities, that's consistent with the name.

Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#198

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Huh, seems like quite a misnomer then.

Sanctions all apply to foreign entities, that's consistent with the name.

Huh? Local governments of the US paying off ransoms, and then getting punished for it, would be punishing a domestic entity.

Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#199

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Sanctions all apply to foreign entities, that's consistent with the name.

Huh? Local governments of the US paying off ransoms, and then getting punished for it, would be punishing a domestic entity.

Trade inherently involves two parties. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The US hasn't sanctioned any of these addresses yet. They could, and if they did, the OFAC would be how they'd do it... if they decide to.

The only thing they announced that they're going to do so far is share information about them.

Re: Alliance of 40 countries to vow not to pay ransom to cybercriminals, US says

#200

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Well, I guess if you think ruin or death is a valid consequence for fairly low stakes "crimes", you can implement pretty much any regime you like, assuming you've got enough boots and knives.

Nice changing of the goal post. I accept your concession.

No goalpost moving. Just hyperbolic mockery of an appeal to Islamic countries for anything to emulate on the front of rights or freedoms.
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