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Newsom vetoes a proposed ban on caste discrimination in California

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Re: Newsom vetoes a proposed ban on caste discrimination in California

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Who even knows someone’s caste in the US. As an Indian living in the US for 20 years, I have never once even heard it come up in any conversation even in passing. How would you even tell? I grew up in India and I can’t tell.

You have to be upper caste to not have to think about caste. That being said, I’ve seen very little evidence of this as well. Which makes it even more perplexing why groups would oppose the addition of caste among the list of factors on which someone can be discriminated. I do think Newsom is right in that it’s covered under current ancestry laws (proponents point to a case in NY decades ago when ancestry wasn’t incl…

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Re: Newsom vetoes a proposed ban on caste discrimination in California

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Are you suggesting that there were not conflicts between say Catholic Americans of Irish descent and other Americans? I don’t know whether you are magnifying caste based conflicts in the US to an absurd degree, or are not aware of ethnic based conflicts in US history. Please read about the Fenian raids for example - these things did have impacts in North America and to a very violent/impactful degree. > That includes…

>Are you suggesting that there were not conflicts between say Catholic Americans of Irish descent and other Americans? I didn't say that. I even noted >Boston Irish support for the Nationalists in Ireland may not have been a wonderful thing to other Americans, but at least Americans did not have to deal with the conflicts on their own soil. And yes, I am well aware of the Fenian raids, as well as the (myth of) the "n…

It sounds like you agree with me. Ethnic conflicts are a natural consequence of immigration, and they die out over time. They used to be more pronounced in the past, and American history is littered with it.

You don’t even seem to think caste conflicts are a pronounced or big deal, so I’m not sure what we were even arguing about.

And yeah, caste is supposed to not matter for Christians, muslims or sikhs - but in practice that matters where you are.

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