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How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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I cured my aphantasia another way. I stopped believing in it. I was asked to visualize something and I could only do it vaguely when I described it. He told me I had weak visualization which showed me it didn't exist. Everyone who claims to have it just has WEAK visualization and trying harder to visualize will give you the same results. It'll take a while, think of it as a muscle. Use it or lose it.

I love people like you that just dismiss everything that doesn't apply to themselves..

It is clearly a spectrum and if you are the lower end of it, it doesn't help at all to have someone say: "just do it".

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #185

As someone with aphantasia, most of the replies here prompt me to think ugly thoughts about humanity. Judgemental, hateful, repugnant species. There's really no hope for the primate line. With any luck, some thoughtless company will engineer a replacement. If only I could visualize that outcome.

FYI incitement to genocide is a crime under international law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement_to_genocide

I’d like to think that your remarks displayed a special kind of horrifying stupidity.

Unfortunately it seems all too common to qualify as special.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #185

As someone with aphantasia, most of the replies here prompt me to think ugly thoughts about humanity. Judgemental, hateful, repugnant species. There's really no hope for the primate line. With any luck, some thoughtless company will engineer a replacement. If only I could visualize that outcome.

FYI incitement to genocide is a crime under international law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement_to_genocide

Go be a troll somewhere else.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I am like you in that I cannot actually see anything visual in my minds eye but I can still 'visualise' it. For example, I can rotate a die in my minds eye without actually seeing it. It's hard to explain. It was a revelation when I found out that most people can actually see things visually in their minds eye. A friend of mine can actually place imagined objects into their field of view, like AR.

> A friend of mine can actually place imagined objects into their field of view, like AR. I'm so jealous.

That's likely something that anyone with a 'mind eye' can do.

I wonder if that's something that can be trained, just like 'fixing' aphantasia can be trained [1]:

- Sit in front of a table, with a large vase of flowers on it.

- Remove the vase and put it behind you.

- Looking at the now empty table, try to remember the look of the vase on it.

This is how it 'feels' being able to put imagined objects into your FOV. You don't get to actually see it, but you can imagine what it's like to do it.

[1] https://photographyinsider.info/image-streaming-for-photogra...

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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I hate the writing style. This is the kind of text you normally see from scam artists: "this cool techinque that I'm going to tell you about", "here's a personal story/testimonial", "soon I'll tell you how I did it", "watch this video if you want to learn more", and there's usually also a "buy my course if you really want to learn about it". This is not how one shares knowledge, this is how one sells snake oil. Thus,…

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...and before that it was refined as multi-page copy in direct mail, and full-page or long copy in advertisements. Even if you changed only the formatting in a direct mail piece to make the copy spread over more pages, response rates went up.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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This reminds me of a time when I was meditating in my dimly lit office after work some years ago. For context, I had been meditating daily for 20-30 minutes quite consistently at the time.

During this session, about 15 minutes in I had the sensation of "seeing with my eyes closed". I could see very clearly my workspace, desk, monitors, keyboard, etc. It was one of the most remarkable experiences of my life.

I am wondering now if this was related to a sudden lapse in aphantasia (which it seems like I have), a closed eye hallucination (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-eye_hallucination), both, or something else?

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of dreams, similar to the author's comment about needing to try a month before getting good results, I used to not remember my dreams at all. I decided to keep a dream journal. First week I only had like 3 entries with one sentence notes like "saw the color blue." But a few months in I was remembering most of my rem cycles, 6 months in and the dreams could continue through cycles (like one long epoch). I did…

I've tried journaling my dreams but I found it to be tedious due to the amount of dreams and their various contents. Some dreams consist of strong emotions and what I sense as I wake up is not the dream, but the feeling of have been separated from the dream. That's hard to put into words in the middle of the night. In the end, I tend to recall my dreams quite well, many of which have a permanent place among other epi…

I think, having an easy to reach voice recorder is better than stressing and writing about what you saw.

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #85

There was a story about a guy who trained himself to lucid dream about a hundred years ago while he was riding a train, and letting the shadows play off of his closed eyes....anyone know what I'm talking about? Having a hard time googling it, but I wonder if that same technique could be used for improving mental imagery instead of eye rubbing.

That also sounds safer..

Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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post #58

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Really? Like you literally see the things you imagine? How do you function? How do you manage to drive, without your thoughts blocking your view? How can you even tell if anything you see is real or a product of your imagination? I feel like if that's what is actually happening you should see a professional.

Well it's not like it's blocking your view, it's kind of a separate thing, you know it's not real and you retain the entierty of you eye's information.

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Re: How to see bright, vivid images in your mind’s eye (2016)

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So, wait, are people normally actually seeing images, with their eyes, when they imagine what something looks like? Like, the brown-blackness of the back of your eyelids gets replaced with something you actually see, like it's projected there? I can imagine what something looks like, and I guess I sort of 'see' it, but closing my eyes doesn't make it any more real. It doesn't seem to involve the eyes or any part of t…

Welcome to the club.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

I only know that terms like 'mental imagery' or 'daydreaming' aren't metaphorical because of another HN thread about it years ago. Turns out (to varying degrees) the vast majority of people have a TV in their minds they can switch on.

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