I'd rather advice people to reinvent a new html js format. Preferably serialized to binary so it can fast and save battery on mobile. Html was not designed for applications, it carries a lot of debt, and it's an ambiguous language, which makes it very expensive to parse for browsers.
I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
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Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let the browser become a user agent in the full meaning of the word. Few web sites need their own styling or navigational structure. Finding information would be much easier for the user if all websites are presented in the same format, completely decided by the user. I've changed my browsers to load all websites in reader view by default, and it is shockingly better than the old way. You get your text, hyperlinks, i…
> Let the browser become a user agent in the full meaning of the word. Few web sites need their own styling or navigational structure. Finding information would be much easier for the user if all websites are presented in the same format, completely decided by the user. You are correct that this would be the better^tm solution. But it's so far from reality that it might as well be impossible. Branding, UX Design and…
Reader view is already half way there, and it is as mainstream as it can be, as it comes on all iPhones and Macs. But you're right, my idea doesn't have much to do with the underlying protocols.
Speaking of branding, marketing and UX design, I would say that most businesses have already completely given up on that, and are content to sell their stuff online through portals that are completely controlled by third parties such as Amazon, Booking.com, Doordash, Instagram, etc. Very few make a decent effort to have a website where their customers can easily purchase their products, even though it isn't hard at all.
Could a user-centric browser extract the HTML results of everything made by javascript and present it in a standardized way? Because text, images and videos are already solved problems with reader view. The interesting part would be if HTML input elements could also be thrown in, even though they're usually quite javascript connected. Any website more complicated than that is more of a web app, and should be rendered as the designers intend, in my opinion.
In the end, I think even a folder structure would be the right way for front-end as well as back-end for most websites. Here's your articles in HTML, here's your images, here's the product you can purchase as some kind of standardized json-object. Does this make sense?
Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#193"Writing a browser" (from scratch) at this point basically means you are implementing a type of portable operating-system-in-a-box (the web platform) and that it will be compatible with whatever Google decides to add to theirs. The browser is so comprehensive in functionality and APIs, and such a challenge to keep up with Google's constant churn of new features and total dominance, that not even Microsoft could do it…
> The browser is so comprehensive in functionality and APIs Not really. If you limit your scope by saying that you're building a hypertext document viewer , it suddenly becomes approachable. A lot of the functionality is all that PWA stuff no one asked for and no one is using for anything good anyway. WebSQL? IndexedDB? Service workers? WebGL? WebGPU? WebBluetooth? WebRTC? Just act like it all doesn't exist. 99% of a…
Recall that UNIX (and C) were built (and adopted) in response to perceived over-complexities in contemporary systems.
Maybe in 20 years we’ll recall + interact with Chrome like how people in the 80s recall + interacted with Multics or OS/360.
To complete the analogy, I guess you’d expect to see this browser come out of former Safari interns/engineers at Apple.
Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it's not the tech news that he's saying is bad, it's the ads.
Huh? The author is very explicitly writing first about general news, and then about tech news. > I do like to follow tech news, and for me, this is done 98% through Ycombinator’s hacker news. But I started to get the same feeling I had ten years ago: it’s all negative. That's followed by the list of some sample categories negative tech news that they are concerned about. Most of them have nothing to do with ads. Even…
the conclusion of this author is that the profit motive will drive companies to build ads into browsers. (microsoft is already putting ads into windows. browsers will be next)
Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#195I can relate. I have also stopped following the news, and almost all social media as well. I don't know if it is an age thing, or just the state of the world. But the past year, opening a news site have given me stress symptoms. And news sites love to feed it. Someone burns a koran? It is only news if it is reported. If someone does it in their basement alone, it would not matter at all. But instead it becomes a glob…
Be careful what you wish for. What if the news didn't report on corruption? Because you can find a whole lot of places where the news won't do that, and you'll know it only from gossip or involvement. What if the news didn't report on tragic events? Let's say a natural disaster or a horrific crime happens in your community, and the news media is just silent, pretending like nothing happened. I bet a lot of people wou…
Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#196OP here. Thanks for the pos/neg/neutral comments everybody. Some remarks: Yes, there are a lot of browsers out there where I can contribute to which would be more efficient. But that would result in just a few browsers instead of a lot of browsers. I'm all for the last one, as this would give people options. This IS a pet project. I never told anyone otherwise. I would start writing it even when I wasn't fed up with…
Idea -- pump the whatwg specs through chatgpt to generate the Rust code.
Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#197OP here. Thanks for the pos/neg/neutral comments everybody. Some remarks: Yes, there are a lot of browsers out there where I can contribute to which would be more efficient. But that would result in just a few browsers instead of a lot of browsers. I'm all for the last one, as this would give people options. This IS a pet project. I never told anyone otherwise. I would start writing it even when I wasn't fed up with…
Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#198OP here. Thanks for the pos/neg/neutral comments everybody. Some remarks: Yes, there are a lot of browsers out there where I can contribute to which would be more efficient. But that would result in just a few browsers instead of a lot of browsers. I'm all for the last one, as this would give people options. This IS a pet project. I never told anyone otherwise. I would start writing it even when I wasn't fed up with…
-"Why wouldn't you just go hang out on the factory line at Ford instead?"
Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#199OP here. Thanks for the pos/neg/neutral comments everybody. Some remarks: Yes, there are a lot of browsers out there where I can contribute to which would be more efficient. But that would result in just a few browsers instead of a lot of browsers. I'm all for the last one, as this would give people options. This IS a pet project. I never told anyone otherwise. I would start writing it even when I wasn't fed up with…
-"I'm building a hot rod!" -"Why wouldn't you just go hang out on the factory line at Ford instead?"
Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We are living in unprecedentedly peaceful and prosperous times, and it's only getting better day by day. There are a lot of people who are a definitely NOT more prosperous or peaceful. Democracy is decreasing world wide. Young people in the US are NOT as prosperous as their parents and grandparents were at their age. Global warming is causing serious issues which we are only beginning to address. Maybe things are g…
US makes up a mere ~4% of the worlds population
So you concede all the other points?
"This revision represents 11 million more people living in extreme poverty, largely driven by South Asia (5 million) and the Middle East and North Africa (4 million)."
World Bank is claiming there are 11 million more people living in extreme poverty in 2023[1].
[1] https://blogs.worldbank.org/opendata/march-2023-global-pover...