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Re: We have successfully completed our migration to RAM-only VPN infrastructure

#191

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Huh? You're the one that said no comment was suspicious! I said something weaker than that, that it's not very suspicious. I'm not the one that said a canary failing is a yes. I said it was significantly more suspicious than a no comment.

Yes, I was the one saying that _people_ consider it suspicious, but I'm also the one saying that as a company your only course of action is to not comment on legal matters unless legally compelled to. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. People (in aggregate) don't act rationally, so even if it's going to lose you some customers, no comment.

That doesn't explain your previous comment. Was the accusation about [[pretending that "no comment" means something it doesn't]] a misunderstanding of what I was saying? Or a confusion between me and powersnail? Or something else entirely?

If it's about what powersnail is saying, I think they're just wording things imprecisely. The canary doesn't actually affect the meaning of "no comment". The canary means that if it disappears, things are very suspicious, and if ask directly about the canary and get a "no comment" then you not only stay very suspicious, you also know they didn't forget. The no comment itself is not a "yes", but from a security point of view you should treat this active lack of canary as if it is a "yes".

Which they referred to as a "practical/tentative yes". Which I think is a reasonable way to describe the situation. It's not "flat out wrong" or "counter-productive".

> so even if it's going to lose you some customers, no comment

You're going too far here.

If you used to comment on something, and you could easily comment on it, and it loses you customers not to comment... you should comment. If you don't, it is suspicious.

Re: We have successfully completed our migration to RAM-only VPN infrastructure

#192

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The fact that even your personal anecdote isn't "as serious" kind of proves my point...

I subbed my toe today. Didn't break it. Therefore nobody ever gets a broken toe?…

What? Not related to this conversation at all.

Re: We have successfully completed our migration to RAM-only VPN infrastructure

#193

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I subbed my toe today. Didn't break it. Therefore nobody ever gets a broken toe?…

What? Not related to this conversation at all.

Same thing different words. Your point (it doesn't happen to many so no one needs to worry) is an appeal to infinity, much like how Douglas Adam's used an appeal to infinity for humour purposes to “prove” that the population of the universe is zero (and any people you may meet are just figments of a deranged imagination).

You: “It happens to a small number of people, there are many many more people than that, so it averages out to effectively zero, so no one needs to worry”

Me: “Toe stubbing only happened to a small number of people, there are many many more people than that, so it averages out to effectively zero, so no one needs to be careful about their feet”

HHGTTG: “the volume of the universe is infinite there must be an infinite number of worlds. But not all of them are populated; therefore only a finite number are. Any finite number divided by infinity is zero, therefore the average population of the Universe is zero, so the total population must be zero and any people you may meet are just figments of a deranged imagination”

Re: We have successfully completed our migration to RAM-only VPN infrastructure

#195

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What? Not related to this conversation at all.

Same thing different words. Your point (it doesn't happen to many so no one needs to worry) is an appeal to infinity, much like how Douglas Adam's used an appeal to infinity for humour purposes to “prove” that the population of the universe is zero (and any people you may meet are just figments of a deranged imagination). You: “It happens to a small number of people, there are many many more people than that, so it a…

But people aren't careful with their feet precisely because toe stubbing is not an actual problem worth spending real effort solving...
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