The real question is why the company doesn't use .ml as a domain name alias. Edit: dang, guess HN strips out emojis from posts. The Punycode version of the Hugging Face emoji on a relevant TLD supporting emoji domains would be http://xn--zp9h.ml/
Hugging Face raises $235M from investors including Salesforce and Nvidia
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#192I love Huggingface. I worry they will be the next Docker. What is the moat? "We will run your inference" can't be the answer.
What was the moat when AWS EC2 launched in 2007? There were already thousands of little mom-and-pop VPS companies that would rent you a virtual Linux box with root permissions for $15/month.
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What do people think separated GitHub from docker? Docker also had DockerHub, but it wasn’t as necessary as GitHub and didn’t catch on as well. I think HF is more like docker than GitHub. GitHub had the wide scope to be huge. Docker was too niche (in comparison) and didn’t catch on so much to be necessary for every single project like Git did. Similarly, HF is also niche in the sense that docker is. There’s no need t…
Docker grew too fast. They chased VC dollars for what really was just a cool open source project. I spent some time at their first office in SF ten years ago for meetups. They had a really cool unique culture. I think that just doesn't scale some times.
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1. Raise $$$ 3. Spend $$$ 4. Exit w/ $
Take money off the table, that’s what all the startup gurus call it, but whose money is kinda the question. Have pension funds stopped chasing VC funds etc?
Yes, they have. Higher bond yields (compared to 0% three years ago) is causing pension funds to shift their allocation away from "alternative" investments (vc & pe), so it has become harder to raise a new VC fund these days.
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#195Congratulations! Elon's team over at X.ai, who I'm helping advise, is choosing between Hugging Face and a locally hosted alternative. What would HN recommend? I prefer Hugging Face as it has a stronger community built in but others prefer a open source project we can customize.
Goodness, good luck and congrats! I am curious however, why name drop Elon and X.ai when asking this question? With all due respect, I'm not sure how that is going to advance the technical conversation, and in some regards may indeed de-rail it and hinder the mentoring you might receive? I hope I do not sound combative! I am generally curious, as I see this behavior at $JOB, but in reverse. "My customer is seeing thi…
You work at a business and you think it's name dropping for a colleague to bring up specific customers' needs?
I'm trying to see the steel man version of your argument, but I'm not getting it. GP is working for a well publicized AI startup and shared that they are evaluating HF versus alternatives. I thought it was useful information, and it's germane to this thread.
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#196The real question is why the company doesn't use .ml as a domain name alias. Edit: dang, guess HN strips out emojis from posts. The Punycode version of the Hugging Face emoji on a relevant TLD supporting emoji domains would be http://xn--zp9h.ml/
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#198I wouldn't be surprised if there is little to near zero risk for Nvidia with this bet.
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Both Anthropic and OpenAI are not a replacement for huggingface. Which has complete monopoly on model hosting right now.
Monopoly is a stretch. Half of the models I try come direct from GitHub (and almost 100% of all model code comes from GH too). Hosting binaries isn't really a stable business model.
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i'm curious what HF does, because iiuc they're mostly just hosting model files? i know that they have some compute offers, and also created/maintain a few libraries, but it's not particularly widely used, i'm really not sure how they're supposed to earn money...
I've been asking myself that for a while. Would they be so popular if they didn't host & serve petabytes of model files for free? How will they monetize that aspect to match this valuation? Whilst the scale of their model hosting is impressive, the functionality seems pretty basic. The models are just BLOBs in git LFS repos, you're usually relying on knowing which users to follow, then learning the way they name thei…