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Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by maaatwo »

MrAlex94 wrote: post #76

If I'm not mistaken Arc is also a closed source browser. The company has raised $18M since 2020. How are they expecting to make that RoI for their investors? Monetisation for browsers is incredibly hard, and doing it in a way that respects the end user is even harder. Curious to see their play.

They're looking at PaaS-style monetization to start[1]: free for solo users, but teams looking to use Arc's collaborative features—none of which I think have been formally announced yet—will have to pony up.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVda3zFLlhc

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by thiht »

bloopernova wrote: post #151
thiht wrote: post #114

I’ve used Arc as my main browser on my work laptop for the last few months and I love it! It solves pain points I’ve actively tried to solve with Firefox, but couldn’t. It’s no surprise HN is skeptical about « yet another browser », so here’s what I like specifically about Arc: - it supports tab tiling. I can see 2 tabs next to one another easily. This is NOT solved with window tiling, it’s clunky and clutters the sp…

I disagree that Tree Style Tabs are awful. I use it every day and it's rock solid. Firefox forever, yo! Whitest guy ever tries to make an F gang sign with his fingers

To each their own I guess!

To be clear maybe the term « awful » was a bit harsh, I don’t want to shit on TST/Sidebery, I know the limitations they face on Firefox. I said it multiple times, but I’m mad that seeing the relative success of TST/Sidebery in their add on catalog, Mozilla didn’t invest anything in experience around vertical tabs, and tabs in general. Arc is fundamentally a big rethinking of what tabs should/could be in a browser.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by square_usual »

_23sd wrote: post #158
prmoustache wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you want your browser to manage themes and window management (tiling, links outside of web) while it is the job of the OS/desktop environment?

Part of the reason is that this is a macOS browser. macOS's window management is a joke. But I think I'd use the tab tiling on Linux too, I do a lot of work with tiled browser windows and it's great, but also sucks when you want to have a window very small horizontally and the browser's UI gets squished along with any extension menus you're trying to use. Arc doesn't have that problem, you always have access to the f…

Arc specifically has that problem. I use a tiling window manager on macOS (guess what, they exist!) and Arc doesn't play nice with it, specifically because of the vertical-only tab bar.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by x62Bh7948f »

Terretta wrote: post #126

In case you are interested in a wrapper for WebKit instead of for Chromium, but one that lets you use your favorite Chrome and Firefox extensions: Orion Browser by Kagi: Very fast. Zero telemetry. Lightweight, natively built with WebKit, made for you and your Mac. Industry-leading battery life, privacy respecting by design and native support for web extensions. Orion supports Firefox and Chrome browser extensions nat…

I tried Orion a while ago: in that version background tabs with YouTube on pause made the bottom of my m1 air get very hot. I really liked that it supported chrome extensions but battery life was not great. I’ll give it another go now that I’ve been using arc for some time.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by [deleted] »

H12 wrote: post #188

I've been using Arc for a few months now and find myself really missing it when I use other browsers. This is due to a number of things, like the degree of UI polish and a UX I personally find very intuitive, but I think the biggest factor comes down to their features around tab management. Namely the following: 1. Tabs closing automatically by default unless explicitly pinned 2. Being able to group pinned tabs into…

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Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by crooked-v »

freediver wrote: post #187
crooked-v wrote: post #183

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This is great, with the one big annoyance that they don't use the actual native iCloud password keychain (and so, for example, can't interop with how that's also used to auto-fill passwords for apps on iOS, not just websites).

Orion does use native Keychain for passwords (and also uses iCloud to sync them).

It uses its own separate keychain entries (whatever the term is), not the stuff that's used by the iOS system level functionality.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by freediver »

crooked-v wrote: post #196
freediver wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Orion does use native Keychain for passwords (and also uses iCloud to sync them).

It uses its own separate keychain entries (whatever the term is), not the stuff that's used by the iOS system level functionality.

That is by design of Keychain, apps can not access each others keychain, otherwise it would not be secure. There is no "iOS system level keychain" but all apps use a bucket in keychain - Safari uses one and Orion uses one.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by stereoradonc »

fragmede wrote: post #111
olliej wrote: post #108

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Seriously the fact the "I made a chrome wrapper" is apparently worth millions in VC funding remains absurd to me.

There's value on the wrapper around the rendering engine. Presumably you don't use the raw engine, and use many of the UX features provided by your chosen wrapper (of which there are many). Things like tabs and extensions, hell even having history, settings, cookies, and a back button are UX niceties a raw engine doesn't necessarily provide. So the wrapper is important; making a better wrapper is thus a worthwhile en…

The context of the statement was different, and you took it to a whole different level. A browser wrapper is a wrapper by any other name. Linux is different.

Re: Arc Browser 1.0

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Post by pfych »

daruk wrote: post #154
zzo38computer wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should not be required if you do not want sync across devices, bug reports, etc (or if you just want to copy the configuration by yourself instead). However, apparently it requires anyways, and that is no good. It also should not require an internet connection if you are only going to view local files and/or LAN.

It definitely won’t let me progress past the login screen on iOS without first creating an account on a Mac. Seems like an odd UX decision.

The iOS app is not a standalone browser, it's a reader for pages saved on your Mac Arc instance.
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