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Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Wow. He was only 59. I've always loved his lockpicking business card: https://www.mitnicksecurity.com/kevin-mitnicks-famous-lockpi... While I assume this is real, part of me does feel like a combination of how young he is and who is is leads me to be slightly skeptical. Assuming it's real, hopefully he would have appreciated the skepticism.

Can you still get one of these? It says send cash in the mail so… I’m skeptical

There are similar ones on AliExpress, if you just look for lockpicks in CC format

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

#193
I was not aware he was ill. Always sad to hear people that are taken by cancer.

I didn't know Kevin, but am friends with Tsutomu Shimomura who worked with authorities to get him arrested. Tsutomu worked with me a bit when I was at Sun trying to get a cryptographically secure subsystem into the base system specification. It was fun to listen to his side of this story.

The 80's was a really weird time for computer enthusiasts, and it was the period of time when what was then considered the "hacker" community schismed into what today we might call "white hat" vs "black hat" hackers.

As a person who considered themselves to be part of that community I was personally offended by how the story of Kevin painted everyone who thought of themselves as a "hacker" as a criminal. It made for good story telling to make these folks "pirate" or perhaps more accurately "privateer" types in their swashbuckling ways of sticking it to the man. People would say, "Exposing security holes is like solving puzzles (which is fun) and important because if I don't do it, well somebody 'bad' will." And while I'm here, why not make it hurt for them a little bit to incentivize them to fix this problem quickly!"

I didn't disagree with the importance of pointing out security problems, but the flamboyant way it was done scared the crap out of people who were both clueless and in a position to do stupid things. As a result we got the CFAA and the DMCA which are both some of the most ridiculous pieces of legislation after the so called "patriot" act.

The damage that did to curious people growing up lost the US a significant fraction of their upcoming "innovation" talent. While not diminishing the folks who leaned in to the illegality of it.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

#198

Wow. He was only 59. I've always loved his lockpicking business card: https://www.mitnicksecurity.com/kevin-mitnicks-famous-lockpi... While I assume this is real, part of me does feel like a combination of how young he is and who is is leads me to be slightly skeptical. Assuming it's real, hopefully he would have appreciated the skepticism.

I had a similar thought, his social engineering abilities were very strong. If there was one person in the world willing to fake their own death to engineer access to something, it would have been him. A sad day.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

#199
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As one of the people whose credit card number was stolen from Netcom, I would strongly object to this. I'm not here to speak poorly of the dead, but I'm definitely here to judge those who think too highly of him.

As someone too young to have a credit card in 1995, I’m curious: was its theft more of a “big deal” back then? My Amex account number was stolen a month ago. It took me three minutes on the call with a rep to get it locked + a new card issued. I think I spent more time and effort on the phone with my dentist later that week.

Yes. People were afraid to put their credit card into early websites because they were afraid of theft. It took decades to convince people it was 'safe'. Only thing that makes it safe these days is the fact that now credit card companies won't hold you responsible for the theft. That theft is then offset and socialized by the insanely high APYs.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

#200
post #42

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> Having been threatened with murder and then blackmailed, with zero consequence to the perpetrators, I have first hand experience dealing with such corruption. Care to elaborate? This sounds like something too heavy to leave behind as a remark on a comment

The same has been done to me by the same systems both physical and electronic. I have mental and physical scars to show.

The good die young if they don't realize the game they are playing quick enough. Godspeed.

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