Twitter Is DDOSing Itself • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by ktm5j » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:35 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #163

hinkley wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When someone says, "certain topics will get you banned" that doesn't make me judge the platform, that makes me judge the person. People are going to assume it's something you don't want to name, if you won't name it.

I'm LGBT and my spouse is trans. I don't believe you should silence anti-trans rhetoric. I believe you should engage it. The ability for /r/conservative to ban my counter arguments is just as harmful as Mastodon shutting down the anti-trans positions. Conversation is what moves us forward and is how we find commonality. I grew up religious and conservative. I changed a lot of my viewpoints through friendly conversati…

As a trans woman living in a conservative area, I get where you're coming from but I seriously disagree. The hardest pill for me to swallow through all of this has been realizing that some people will never change no matter how much you engage them. The only way I maintain my sanity is to do whatever I can to reduce my exposure to that kind of thing so I don't end up engaging with it.. because it just never goes well.

I realize it's a complicated issue, and I'm never a fan of banning speech. But not all speech deserves a response.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by Waterluvian » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:35 PM UTC

brigadier132 wrote: post #113

This is why you always use exponential backoff.

I wonder if exponential backoff should be the default behaviour for request libraries/APIs.

Their default of “just go ham on that API” feels like the same footgun of “by default this Humongous Database is wide open.”

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by grumple » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:35 PM UTC

"Yeah, let's roll this out on a Friday night before the biggest national holiday weekend of the summer."

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by noncoml » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:35 PM UTC

Perfect example of why you don’t just fire all your senior engineers.

You can’t debug and root cause if you do. So you end up adding hacky point fixes

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by tough » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:36 PM UTC

OnlineGladiator wrote: post #190

bravoetch wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

25 years of products being honed for shareholder value, instead of customer or user value. We may be at peak consumer tolerance for anti-pattern, in-app purchase, subscription-model, ad-packed, data-siphoning, dopamine driven, gated experiences.

> We may be at peak consumer tolerance for anti-pattern, in-app purchase, subscription-model, ad-packed, data-siphoning, dopamine driven, gated experiences. As much as I want this to be true, I think this sentiment is really only popular on tech-savvy forums like HN. Most people don't use ad blockers, and I've had people get mad at me when I suggest that they do (directly in response to something where they are compl…

> and I've had people get mad at me when I suggest that they do. lol that's a new one, why?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by bradknowles » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:36 PM UTC

kvetching wrote: post #4

Could this be the reason for the rate limiting? Elon thinks the server usage is scrapers when in reality it's just bad code causing a self DDOS?

Ask him whether he wrote the code himself that is DDOS-ing Twitter. I wouldn't be surprised if he had that much hubris.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by bengale » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:37 PM UTC

jitl wrote: post #8

Bluesky feels like it’s buckling under the refugee crisis load

Is it still invite only? I don’t think I know anyone that’s got on there yet.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by globalise83 » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:37 PM UTC

comboy wrote: post #59

Anybody knows if these requests were happening before the login only change? Because it would be hilarious if huge scrapping operation was a bug in their javascript.

I can say for sure that a certain flow ("back" from Profile view or similar) would trigger an infinite redirecting loop on Firefox on my Android device, with probably dozens of requests over a couple of seconds until rate limiting kicked in. Maybe there were many of these little bugs which together looked like some kind of DDOS or scraping.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by pfisch » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:37 PM UTC

Threads is about to launch and I have a feeling once that happens twitter will quickly become the next Truth Social.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by thakoppno » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 9:38 PM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #186

It's not a self ddos if twitter isn't going down. You can see in the video twitter is properly handling the load and is returning HTTP 429 when the client is sending too many requests. Hitting the rate limiter or requesting a post is light weight. It's not like it's spamming login requests which require a lot of resources due to key stretching.

2 Nines is sufficient at scale?