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Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Post by janderland »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #183
loves_mangoes wrote: post #3

I had heard that there's a community of people who insufflate caffeine on Reddit, but this one is news to me. Seems a little funny to go through all the trouble and extreme stigma of injecting yourself with an IV drug, only to pick ground up coffee beans as your poison of choice (!) The study is interesting mostly for the fact that someone tried it, but ultimately the results don't show a very strong effect. I wouldn…

Snorting caffeine is one of the most comparable ways to realize that it's just as "safe" as cocaine.

What? You must be confounding route of administration with safety. Sure, oral administration is technically the safest because of first pass metabolism, but the choice of drug is a MUCH bigger safety factor. Snorting caffeine is much safer than snorting cocaine by every metric.

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Post by salad-tycoon »

pcthrowaway wrote: post #132

> Every drug seems to have a “right” way to take it. You drink alcohol, smoke tobacco, snort powdered cocaine, inject heroin, and booty bump ecstasy Nicotine at least is probably more commonly consumed via alternative means now (in North America, in Vaping would likely be the most common, but there are also patches, gum, lozenges, dip, and snuff. I've never heard of anally consumed nicotine though

There’s also nasal spray and I think drinks in Japan. Snuff (nose) is big India I believe.

If you stretch out your hand and fingers and draw a line down from your index and thumb there’s the radial fossa aka “anatomical snuffbox.”

I’ve never done rectal or IV nicotine but I’ve done all the rest. For my money, the Swedes make the best smokeless tobacco. I’m guessing it’s big there?

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Post by salad-tycoon »

carimura wrote: post #44

Coffee enemas are apparently an influencer thing right now.

There was a show called “my weird addiction” or something similar. A young good looking couple would frequently take breaks to do coffee enemas. She likes “Java” or something, he preferred something else and more like espresso. I think they had a kid. Only episode I ever watched.

What a treat.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Post by themodelplumber »

PKop wrote: post #23
engineer_22 wrote: post #2

TLDR; participants with cocaine history were administered caffeine IV. At high doses (300mg) they reported some mild euphoria, and a strange taste and/or smell. Ask HN: aside from caffeine, what is the drug of choice around here?

Running, hiking, lifting

Serious? I pre & post all of those + bicycling. Whammy, huge difference, especially if you leverage e.g. the caffeine for mental work, or whatever else each chemical is good at.

Had some funny experiments in there but would never go back to nothing. It doesn't make sense, especially if you don't have an addictive personality & any chemical risk is more likely associated with quitting beneficial chemicals than staying on them too long.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Post by uoaei »

mikeweiss wrote: post #164
mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice to meet you. I've actually concluded(through experience) that heavy cannabis use has mainly downsides with no upsides, but that sporadic use only has upsides. I have several friends who feel the same way. They smoke even less than me, maybe a couple times a year. I've met some people who completely swore it off too.

Everything in moderation

Especially moderation :)

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Post by reverendjames »

vijucat wrote: post #143

> Most people consume ecstasy by mouth, but I’ve heard from many that anal ecstasy is a more satisfying experience. I don't know why now and why this, but this has convinced me that I really need to cut down on what I read online. 99% of it does not go towards my life objectives and 100% of it is probably taking up space in my brain. To be clear, I would have laughed at that fact and moved on before. It just hit me d…

It hit you different because you're subconsciously interested in putting drugs in your butt, and you took the time to comment because you wanted to learn more. Maybe.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

2devnull wrote: post #156
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a staph infection on my balls when I was recovering from cancer. My normal doctor was busy so I went to urgent care, with blood dripping down my leg. It was the first time I ever asked for pain killers. I was prescribed acetaminophen. I understand that addiction is a big problem, but this was a male doctor looking at a whole in my testicles, and telling me he can't give me painkillers

Do you have long hair or any other signs?

I barely had any hair I was just a few months off chemo.

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Post by fuzzfactor »

janderland wrote: post #191
fuzzfactor wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snorting caffeine is one of the most comparable ways to realize that it's just as "safe" as cocaine.

What? You must be confounding route of administration with safety. Sure, oral administration is technically the safest because of first pass metabolism, but the choice of drug is a MUCH bigger safety factor. Snorting caffeine is much safer than snorting cocaine by every metric.

Milligram for milligram the pharmaceutical difference is mainly limited to the local anaesthetic effect not present in the caffeine.

Administration is just how you can figure it out for yourself at similar doses.

Go ahead and consume a gram or two of caffeine by any means and compare the stress on the heart and other organs, as well as personality.

Just because it's cheap, legal, and easily available doesn't mean it's safer by comparison.

Also since cocaine users generally consume recreational overdoses doesn't make either one any safer at any dose.

Plus think how many more addicts there are even at much less harmful doses.

Why do you think some of these hard-core caffeine addicts are injecting it anyway, plus handling it as well as they do. Definitely not recommended for anyone who hasn't already built up the tolerance addicts are known for.

Clean living pays off.

To go even more extreme, imagine if there were a nuclear war because somebody who was a little overly nervous pushed "the button".

What drug do you think would be detected if put to the test?

Re: Intravenous Caffeine

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Post by leetrout »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #128
freedomben wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Dunno what would happen if I asked for one outright... Nowadays unless you're over 65 you'd be labelled with "drug seeking behavior" (in your records) and sent home with nothing and a "come to the hospital when you pass your stone." Forget the fact that the difference between drug-seeking behavior and legitimately needing something stronger is indistinguishable, and forget the fact that it will cost thousands upon…

I had a staph infection on my balls when I was recovering from cancer. My normal doctor was busy so I went to urgent care, with blood dripping down my leg. It was the first time I ever asked for pain killers. I was prescribed acetaminophen. I understand that addiction is a big problem, but this was a male doctor looking at a whole in my testicles, and telling me he can't give me painkillers

I think that it universal of urgent care. If you need pain meds it has to be the ER or your PCP/GP in my experience.
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