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Re: Apple Vision

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Post by cpuguy83 »

seydor wrote: post #130

My bet would be completely the opposite. No matter how good these devices get they lack in input bandwidth. My keyboard beats all VR , and it seems to easily beat apple's VR too. The headset is clearly targeted to static environments, entertainment. The apps are like ipad apps, looking cute but when people want to do serious work fast, they use a laptop because it has a keyboard. It is overengineered. There are a lot…

Oculus will even project your actual keyboard into the vr env... provided it's a model they have on file.

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Post by bryanlarsen »

pavlov wrote: post #35

"The company was fairly mum about how it planned to make those cameras and its format more widely available, but I am completely serious when I say that I would pay the NBA thousands of dollars to get a season pass to watch games captured in this way. Yes, that’s a crazy statement to make, but courtside seats cost that much or more, and that 10-second clip was shockingly close to the real thing." The author was shown…

The Quest has live VR NBA games, and it's not selling a ton of $500 headsets for that use case, so I somehow doubt that it's going to move a lot of $3500 headsets.

https://about.fb.com/news/2023/01/nba-games-in-vr-on-quest/

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Post by layer8 »

> the ability of the Vision Pro to take “pictures” — memories, really — of moments in time and render them in a way that feels incredibly intimate and vivid.

This reminds me of the following two scenes from Brainstorm (1983 film):

https://youtu.be/cOGAEAJ4xJE?t=34m37s

https://youtu.be/cOGAEAJ4xJE?t=49m50s

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by sharikous »

_gabe_ wrote: post #138
pavlov wrote: post #35

"The company was fairly mum about how it planned to make those cameras and its format more widely available, but I am completely serious when I say that I would pay the NBA thousands of dollars to get a season pass to watch games captured in this way. Yes, that’s a crazy statement to make, but courtside seats cost that much or more, and that 10-second clip was shockingly close to the real thing." The author was shown…

Thank you, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills or something. I have no idea how much of the footage in the long advertisements are actual in-headset recording vs highly editorialized made up aspirational CG. Additionally, I really don't think all the people here singing the praises of Apple's currently nonexistent headset (for actual customer use at least until 2024 or something) have ever used a headset. Headsets giv…

Tech history is full with product ideas that failed to take off for decades until they crossed the threshold of being actually nice to use

In 2005 people would have predicted a flop for smartphones given the many failures of the like of Apple Newton

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by ivan_gammel »

germinalphrase wrote: post #135
ivan_gammel wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you go to any concert or other public event, half of the audience will be recording on their smartphone instead of watching. I do not see any reason why an iphone of tomorrow won’t have a 3D camera to record and share any important moments the same way as we do it now. There will be the time when we will watch dashcam and drone videos of car crashes, natural disasters and soldiers dying on battlefield sitting on a…

Nobody is strapping this headset on for their kid’s birthday party. There are incredible concert videos from professional crews, and that’s the direction this will go until the tech can be (if ever) made unobtrusive.

The primary purpose of this headset is not a recording device even if it can record, so I do not really see a point in your comment. Most of content creation will happen by other means.

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Post by vxNsr »

andsoitis wrote: post #10
NLPaep wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, a non-Pro version is arriving later.

What will the non-Pro version not have, compared to the Pro?

It will likely be this version while the next iteration will take the “pro” moniker.

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Post by reaperman »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #166
whynaut wrote: post #87

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Watch Marques Brownlee's video on it. It's vastly better than anything before it in both hand- and eye-tracking.

i feel like brownlee is an apple "shill" or at least he knows not to say anything critical - it's business.

His video had lots of harsh criticism of many features of this headset that probably cost Apple $100MM each to build. Several parts of the demo were met with Brownlee's condescension, but one part even seemed to earn his condemnation: the part which implicitly required a dad weirdly wearing this at his child's birthday celebration so that it could be replayed in the future.

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Post by matwood »

nkingsy wrote: post #126
silvestrov wrote: post #104

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Why would NBA allow for this as they would lose an extreme amount of money if people can get the same experience at home? That would be economic suicide for them. They need to keep the seats being a special experience.

It may look and sound the same, but no one is accidentally spilling beer in merriment or telling their friends they were there. It builds the brand. Watching the game on tv is already a far superior way to actually see what’s happening. No different from any other live event, it’s a social experience.

> Watching the game on tv is already a far superior way to actually see what’s happening.

I agree with you for football, but the first 5 rows at an NBA game are amazing. And it's very easy to see what's going on.

Re: Apple Vision

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

creakingstairs wrote: post #36

I probably won’t buy Apple Vision for a while but will eagerly follow it. Like the author, I’m mainly excited about using this for work/ productivity. I’ve tried out working in VR using oculus and immersed. I’ve really liked the experience but the blurry text was a deal breaker. From the reviews so far, that might not be a problem anymore.

I have already imagined myself tony-stark style viewing complex systems as a hologram going up and down in levels of abstraction at the flick of my wrist, having notes pop up, select the pieces of info I need and view everything holistically.
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