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> "Imagine if I had to store the 50k+ tweets I've made on Twitter on my device, and upload ALL of them to a new server whenever a community server went down." This... doesn't seem too bad at all? Let's assume an average of 150 bytes of text per tweet, and an additional 50 bytes of actually important metadata. That's only 10 megabytes for the entire archive of 50,000 items. A single HDR photo from a modern smartphone…
Anyone else read "AT protocol" and thought of old modems?
It's not that bad. ATZ and ATDT are the main two you have to remember. Wait, is that not what we're talking about? So, it has a confusing name too?
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Yea I was like, 50K tweets converted to bytes is like… well it’s one second to upload on my home internet connection. After that, it just felt like rant.
For what it's worth, when a server does go down and thousands of people start uploading their 50k skeets that all need to be cryptographically verified, other major servers will have quite the scaling challenge. Cryptographic verification is intentionally compute heavy after all. 50k entries isn't a whole lot but as people hosting Mastodon servers have found out, things start slowing down when 1000 people transfer th…
You're thinking of password hashing functions like argon2, there's no reason for normal signing and verification operations to be intentionally expensive as that's not where the security guarantees come from.
> "Imagine if I had to store the 50k+ tweets I've made on Twitter on my device, and upload ALL of them to a new server whenever a community server went down." This... doesn't seem too bad at all? Let's assume an average of 150 bytes of text per tweet, and an additional 50 bytes of actually important metadata. That's only 10 megabytes for the entire archive of 50,000 items. A single HDR photo from a modern smartphone…
What about images in tweets?
Okay well. I work on Bluesky and helped build the AT Protocol. I'm sorry Sam differs with us on this, and I'm glad that Activity Pub is already there for him. However, Sam doesn't understand the ATProto very well and I want to clear it up a bit. Before I do, let me just say: Bluesky and the AT Proto are in beta. The stuff that seems incomplete or poorly documented is incomplete and poorly documented. Everything has m…
Not having read the article, I got pretty far into your second paragraph before realizing you all aren't talking about configuring a modem over a serial link. It's funny because the "Hayes AT command set" protocol is also an obtuse crock. I was really hoping you were going to open my mind with some deep wisdom straight out of 1981.
Even after reading some of that thread, I have no idea what this AT protocol is. Did someone reuse the name for the thing used in modems?
AT Protocol is used by the Bluesky app. And yeah, no one outside HN cares about the Hayes AT commands any more.
> "Imagine if I had to store the 50k+ tweets I've made on Twitter on my device, and upload ALL of them to a new server whenever a community server went down." This... doesn't seem too bad at all? Let's assume an average of 150 bytes of text per tweet, and an additional 50 bytes of actually important metadata. That's only 10 megabytes for the entire archive of 50,000 items. A single HDR photo from a modern smartphone…
What about images in tweets?
Yes, there will be broken links. But IMO that’s better than having all your data in one centralized location where it can eventually be taken over by private equity looking to make a buck, or a billionaire who wants to be a media mogul.
Edit: Looking back at historical Twitter news, it’s clear that in 2010 their vision was still to have images embedded from other sites. Here’s a relevant TechCrunch article:
https://techcrunch.com/2010/09/14/new-twitter-tips/
Note how they added display support for embedded Flickr photo set links. Your pictures could be on the dedicated photo service and you’d still get the nice set browsing UI inside Twitter. They should have stuck with this and built a protocol that lets sites interoperate on things like “here’s a set of photos to be embedded” (so you could use something else than Flickr). But instead they wanted to chase the wannabe-Facebook dream of sucking everything into their servers and using a closed client to sell inline ads.
Normies do not care about this stuff in the slightest and it isn’t worth confusing them to include it and doesn’t benefit the site now it’s gunning for being “new Twitter”
Okay well. I work on Bluesky and helped build the AT Protocol. I'm sorry Sam differs with us on this, and I'm glad that Activity Pub is already there for him. However, Sam doesn't understand the ATProto very well and I want to clear it up a bit. Before I do, let me just say: Bluesky and the AT Proto are in beta. The stuff that seems incomplete or poorly documented is incomplete and poorly documented. Everything has m…
I know Jeremie Miller is on the board, is Telehash or something similar being used within Bluesky?
Also, I'm sure you get this a lot, but I'd love a BlueSky invite please.
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