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Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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What kind of mental model breakage made you put "a citizen" into a position of an unaccountable megacorporation in your analogy?

A corporation is just a group of people deciding to do something together according to certain rules. It wouldn't make sense that one person, with a lot of resources could do something within their rights, but a group of people with the same pooled resources couldn't do that thing.

You said yourself that corporations can only do what they do according to certain rules.

Those rules are not the same as those for individuals.

That is precisely what it means to say that one person, with a certain amount of resources, can do things that a group of people, with the same amount of pooled resources, is forbidden from doing.

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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For a living, I influence high level corporate strategy in the games industry. I’ve consulted for all the biggest companies in the space, including all the tech giants’ various gaming-related groups.

Let me be abundantly clear: the decision is utter nonsense. I’m not going into the details here, but the decision is an abysmal abomination and should be very concerning to all technology businesses, both because it signals that a relevant regulatory body is willing to make arbitrary and horribly-justified decisions with major material impacts, and because a story is emerging about the international regulatory collusion that drove this. It ABSOLUTELY IS an undemocratic power grab from politically-driven regulators that abrogates their core duties in favor of empowering themselves and their own political factions.

Additionally, it’s extra embarrassing for the UK because it signals an overly cozy relationship with Sony (which has more operations / employees in country) that reeks of regulatory capture by a local lobby. That and a willingness to jump through hoops for an ambitiously activist US FTC. Unfortunately, the net result is the UK coming off as a complete joke. I’m strongly advising clients to avoid expanding operations in the country and to genuinely consider abandoning the market.

Take it or leave it, but I write this all as someone who had otherwise been strongly arguing AGAINST the deal, because I think it’s bad for the games industry. But this kind of sloppy and arbitrary behavior from regulators is even worse, for all gaming and tech businesses… and, to some degree, for all business in general.

Edit- I can’t elaborate on my reasoning here, but the full picture is out there for anyone interested in looking into it. This is a long and thorough rundown of the situation that serves as a good starting point: https://naavik.co/digest/microsoft-activision-blizzard-timel...

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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> Its obvious to anyone with a brain that peer-to-peer is the way forward with game streaming because it solves the latency problems. How would this work exactly?

include AV1 encode hardware in ps6. You get credits when you let someone nearby use your device to stream from. You spend credits when you stream.

You get cut in the middle of a game as soon as someone shuts their system off and go have dinner.

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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I don't mind the complaint about CMA being undemocratic because it's a council of unelected bureaucrats, it's just trash-talk from someone that didn't get what they wanted; to be expected. IMO the reason why this decision is really dumb is because the reason given was cloud gaming. I think that people are missing this. This isn't a market. Almost nobody plays on cloud gaming platforms, like Stadia which recently clos…

> I don't mind the complaint about CMA being undemocratic because it's a council of unelected bureaucrats, it's just trash-talk from someone that didn't get what they wanted; to be expected.

Is it really "trash talk" if it's 100% true?

> The idea of blocking a deal because maybe this technology will become much more popular one day and maybe Microsoft will be the success is IMO dumb. It's just a dumb argument.

You have to realize that these unelected bureaucrats have to justify their pension funds and headcounts. They NEED to block something so they can brag they "protected" the UK against some "monopolistic evil foreing tech giant".

If you can't innovate... Regulate!

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A corporation is just a group of people deciding to do something together according to certain rules. It wouldn't make sense that one person, with a lot of resources could do something within their rights, but a group of people with the same pooled resources couldn't do that thing.

You said yourself that corporations can only do what they do according to certain rules . Those rules are not the same as those for individuals. That is precisely what it means to say that one person, with a certain amount of resources, can do things that a group of people, with the same amount of pooled resources, is forbidden from doing.

The rules generally exist describing how group decision making occurs, how liability is distributed, etc, not rules limiting the rights of what the group can do.

Lord Templeman, law lord, in Hazell v Hammersmith and Fulham summarized the law thusly:

> That report[Case of Sutton's Hospital], although largely incomprehensible in 1990, has been accepted as "express authority" that at common law it is an incident to a corporation to use its common seal for the purpose of binding itself to anything which a natural person could bind himself and to deal with its property as a natural person might deal with his own

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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I am symmetrical gigabit fiber internet with an Eero 6 Pro in the U.S., and the lag is quite robust. I don't see a way of solving that. And, as you say, a lot of people don't have access to high-quality internet, and there is no reason to believe they will any time soon.

Wireless internet will always make lag unbearable for that kind of stuff.

But surely the main use case for cloud gaming that can be played anywhere is over a wireless connection?

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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I don't mind the complaint about CMA being undemocratic because it's a council of unelected bureaucrats, it's just trash-talk from someone that didn't get what they wanted; to be expected. IMO the reason why this decision is really dumb is because the reason given was cloud gaming. I think that people are missing this. This isn't a market. Almost nobody plays on cloud gaming platforms, like Stadia which recently clos…

The reason may be dumb but I'm anti-monopoly enough that I simply don't care. Anything that even slightly hinders companies from completely removing any form of competition in the space makes me happy.

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Yeah, obviously it does matter if there is literally no competitors, but that's not the case here. There are competitors in the space already. One major difference between how the US and Europe views monopolies is that most of Europe tries to prevent even the formation of them (exceptions apply), while the US tries to prevent "dangerous" monopolies, while allowing monopolies themselves. It could be useful to shift th…

>It could be useful to shift the perspective if you're used to the US one, when looking at decisions made by European agencies like the CMA. Sure. On the other hand, it could be useful to listen to Microsoft's perspective on being obstructive to business rather than accusing them of "whining" given that Europe lags behind in technological innovation despite being similarly well educated.

> given that Europe lags behind in technological innovation

True in some sense, like cool innovations like Ubers for X and social media. False in some sense that there been innovation coming from Europe as well, small things like the web, GSM, CRISPR, LHC, renewables and other almost irrelevant things.

I think technological innovations comes from all continents and I don't think you can surely say that one lags behind another when considering innovation with big impact, everyone is contributing in their way and some in some fields while lagging in others.

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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post #107

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>It could be useful to shift the perspective if you're used to the US one, when looking at decisions made by European agencies like the CMA. Sure. On the other hand, it could be useful to listen to Microsoft's perspective on being obstructive to business rather than accusing them of "whining" given that Europe lags behind in technological innovation despite being similarly well educated.

> given that Europe lags behind in technological innovation True in some sense, like cool innovations like Ubers for X and social media. False in some sense that there been innovation coming from Europe as well, small things like the web, GSM, CRISPR, LHC, renewables and other almost irrelevant things. I think technological innovations comes from all continents and I don't think you can surely say that one lags behin…

Obviously, the LHC isn't going to blocked by antitrust. I'm specifically talking about disruptive technology-related businesses. When is the last time Europe has produced a company like Moderna, Tesla, or OpenAI?
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