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Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by juunpp »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #134
jeppester wrote: post #41

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They are selling everyone's code through copilot

If the code is publicly available on Codeberg, won't GitHub just go take it from there and then sell it through copilot?

Not a lawyer, but there is an existing lawsuit against CoPilot, and Github might have some leverage from the fact that the code is hosted there (I have not read their TOS). Scraping code from a different provider and spitting verbatim copies of it stripped of a license seems like next level fuckery to me. Fucking people is Microsoft's DNA, though, so I'm sure they've already done that.

https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by xvilka »

kotatsuyaki wrote: post #67

I’m trying to migrate my personal repos from GitHub to Codeberg. The biggest challenge is to find a replacement for GitHub Actions (the free offering is so generous), and my current solution for that is to self-host an instance of Woodpecker CI [1]. I’d like to see even more diversity in Git hosting beyond “let’s all migrate from X to Y”, and for that to happen, Forgejo (the soft fork of Gitea that Codeberg runs) has…

SourceHut[1] has CI out of the box[2].

[1] https://sourcehut.org

[2] https://man.sr.ht/tutorials/getting-started-with-builds.md

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by juunpp »

c-hendricks wrote: post #135
maxloh wrote: post #65

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"Publicly available" is different from "licensed under a FOSS license". Anyone other than the original author doesn't have the right to distribute, modify or even execute the code. Even if the code is licensed under an open source license, in most cases it requires users to attribute the original author, while in some cases derivative work must be licensed under the same license too. GitHub Copilot use the code witho…

> distribute Does moving code between a company's data centres count as distribution? Heck doesn't merely hosting the files count as distribution?

"Distribute" means distribution to an end user.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by n0zmer »

emi2k01 wrote: post #181
enriquto wrote: post #163

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> Github can implement code search Sounds great! When are they going to do it?

Are you being sarcastic? If not, GitHub recently updated their search feature and it's pretty good. https://github.com/search/advanced https://docs.github.com/en/search-github/github-code-search/...

I think it was more of a jab at GitHubs laughable search. Somehow, in 2023, GitHubs search is so fucking terrible it fails to find exact string matches in codebases.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by ComposedPattern »

jackothy wrote: post #50
goodrubyist wrote: post #40

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Why is his point juvenile? I enjoyed the comparison. Going FOSS only/going vegan can be challenging and limiting, but is arguably the most ethical choice. In the abstract, I see many similarities between the FSF/Codeberg philosophy and vegan philosophy.

Yeah, as a vegan who shuns proprietary software, I think this is a great analogy. It works regardless of which side you're on. In both cases, GP would probably say "that's way too restrictive," but I'd say "get over it, some things are more important than convenience."

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by 0x6c6f6c »

emi2k01 wrote: post #181
enriquto wrote: post #163

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> Github can implement code search Sounds great! When are they going to do it?

Are you being sarcastic? If not, GitHub recently updated their search feature and it's pretty good. https://github.com/search/advanced https://docs.github.com/en/search-github/github-code-search/...

I hope it's better. I've historically had searches that work best with an exact match, symbols, etc. that just DO NOT work with Haha search.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by 2h »

dragonwriter wrote: post #185
2h wrote: post #182

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> Yes, use-restricted licenses aren’t Free Software people always like to come out of the woodwork in these discussion throwing around scary terms. non-commercial licenses are exactly like any other open source license, with that one restriction that it cant be used for commercial purpose. people do this for good reason, to stop companies from making huge profits off the back of free work. so use whatever fancy term…

> people always like to come out of the woodwork in these discussion throwing around scary terms. There’s no scary terms involved here. Codeberg is a nonprofit foundation with Free software as part of its mission. > non-commercial licenses are exactly like any other open source license, non-commercial and other use-restricted licenses are not Open Source (OSI) or Free Software (FSF) licenses. > people do this for goo…

> There’s no scary terms involved here. Codeberg is a nonprofit foundation with Free software as part of its mission.

non-commercial licenses protect free software, just not in the pedantic meaning you are peddling.

> non-commercial and other use-restricted licenses are not Open Source (OSI) or Free Software (FSF) licenses.

looks like you cropped the rest of that sentence, so here it is again: with that one restriction that it cant be used for commercial purpose. Also if being OSI or FSF compliant, means that businesses can use my work for free, then no thank you.

> People oppose use-restricted licenses for good reason, too.

yeah, because they want software without paying for it, which they can then use to turn a profit.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by 2h »

glitchc wrote: post #178
2h wrote: post #143

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Is this a joke? OSI essentially means only "corporate friendly" licenses are allowed. If someone wants to protect their work under a non-commercial license, they can do that on GitHub but not CodeBerg.

Note that Codeberg supports both FSF and OSI licenses. I listed just the OSI ones in response to the OP's claim that their stance somehow prohibits commercial access to source code listed on their site. FSF licenses are listed here [2]. Goodness, FOSS seems to stir some strong emotions on HN. [2] https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html

> Note that Codeberg supports both FSF and OSI licenses

those all allow commercial use. so programmers who want to prevent commercial use cannot use CodeBerg.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by 2h »

juunpp wrote: post #189
2h wrote: post #150

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Those both allow commercial use, so you just proved my point.

Considering how corporations are often allergic to the GPL variants, you can consider them non-commercial for most practical purposes.

every single license here allows commercial use:

https://choosealicense.com/appendix

so I will defer to that over your opinion.

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