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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by starkparker »

ykl wrote: post #180
uni_rule wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Microsoft Surface devices feel pretty close to modern Apple in fit and finish while also being able to boot whatever else x86 you feel like playing with. Unfortunately their stance towards repair in practice is also pretty similar to Apple. Still, that doesn't change the fact that they physically feel quite nice as devices.

If anything Surfaces are even less repairable than MacBooks. At least you can take apart a MacBook with just a screwdriver (albeit with some special bits for Apple’s weird screws), but modern Surfaces are basically filled with glue [1]. [1] https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Laptop+Tea...

Surface Laptops since the 3 are more repairable than the tablets. Microsoft posted a disassembly video for the 5, which has a magnet-attached C/keyboard cover and Torx screws. https://youtube.com/watch?v=6aCpzyfDUnk

I switched from a Surface Laptop 4 to a Framework 13 and don't miss much beyond the touchscreen, and only then for specific games.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by agloe_dreams »

kup0 wrote: post #108
agloe_dreams wrote: post #84

And if you scroll down you can see the glowing review that they got from Linus Tech Tips.... Who owns a stake in their company...Yiiiikes.

Linus has always been upfront about this investment and I believe some of his content was from before the investment took place. He's explained his reasoning for investing at length and has included a disclaimer in places where necessary. So this is a very uncharitable take. There's plenty of things to cringe or criticize LTT for- but this just isn't it

…I’m not criticizing LTT but hey still got the typical “Linus does no wrong” take.

My critique was on Framework not disclosing themselves that their quote is from someone with a stake in their product now.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by Macha »

perihelions wrote: post #71

How's the keyboard on Frameworks? (Subjectively)

I like it better than the macbook keyboard due to the higher key travel. There's a couple of oddities (the enter and # key for iso keyboards or enter and \ key for americans share the same cut out to reduce the number of case skus), and I miss the dedicated home/end/pgup/pgdown keys my previous dell had, but nothing deal breaking.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by [deleted] »

samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by ncallaway »

wmf wrote: post #156
tuukkah wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> which GPU manufacturer they went with The beauty of this is they don't have to choose. The GPU can be anything that communicates over Thunderbolt and fits in the physical module specs.

anything that communicates over Thunderbolt and fits in the physical module specs In other words, only the GPU modules that Framework chooses to make.

Yea, that’s true in a world where no other company is capable of manufacturing a GPU enclosure with the physical specs they’ve defined. Thankfully, I’m pretty skeptical we live in that world.

If the framework laptop grows in market size that there’s enough demand for it, then anyone could manufacture and sell those components, which is kind of the point.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by agloe_dreams »

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #163
agloe_dreams wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MXM is an 'open-ish' standard that others build for. My real weird view is that they have really went a different direction and their GPU upgrade has a whole rear deck you install and all that rather than building it into the product. That deck will only ever work with the Framework 16. Like, this isn't a standard at all, it's just open for Framework to gain from. It reminds me of Google's Project Ara but for the wro…

> MXM is an 'open-ish' standard that others build for NVidia hasn't made MXM compatible GPUs for at least 5 years.

Yes but the standard still exists. There are PCIe 4.0 GPUs out there in MXM format. It is just PCIe.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by Macha »

agloe_dreams wrote: post #90
Hamuko wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that review might be from before Linus invested in Framework. Not that I can verify it because the Linus Tech Tips channel is still banned.

I think you are right but it still implies that LTT has a valid unbiased opinion on the product now.

If the opinion presented in that video was shared before any business relationship was concieved, I'd hardly consider the opinion invalid.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by ChuckMcM »

starkparker wrote: post #128
ChuckMcM wrote: post #122

I think the Cooler Master case for your "old" mainboard is a pretty neat idea. In that you can upgrade your mainboard, take the old one and put it into the case to make a "mini" PC out of it. That is pretty awesome.

There was already an official 3D-printable case, and Framework even links to it from the CoolerMaster case's product page. Still good to finally have a straightforward option for the printerless.

I was aware of the The 3D printed case, it is nice but it is a challenging print. I think partnering with Cooler Master will get more Framework mainboards re-used than would otherwise be. I expect when you order a new mainboard it will be an option for checkout :-) We'll see.
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