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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by jerkstate »

I fully support this for basic environmental controls and audio, but there is a limit. I test drove a Kia EV6 GT recently and it has, IIRC, 4 up-down levers and about 8 or 10 other buttons on the steering wheel, flappy paddles, and stalks. Compared to Tesla (which I also test-drove), which has only two pushbutton scroll wheels and two stalks, and a big screen. the polar opposite.

I think neither gets it exactly right. physical controls of things that can get obtrusive - wind and noise - are appropriate. But it's ridiculous and distracting to have too many buttons for features that are not really necessary to drive. I think that a common one like rear view mirror adjustment, or even seat adjustment, should not be physical buttons, but menu items.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by tastysandwich »

thesuitonym wrote: post #185
tastysandwich wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then it becomes really annoying when we're both in the car and I want to use my phone.

There is no magic solution that would, without user intervention, automatically know which phone you want to connect. It can't (yet) read your mind.

I'd rather it just not autoconnect. That's all.

At the moment it autoconnects (even if you're already connected to another device), AND autoplays. Doubly annoying.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by bdcravens »

Will this translate to their Kia brand? My EV6 has touch controls for the climate control, and the same "toolbar" flips between climate and radio controls. (it does have 2 circular knobs). On the next level trim, the controls for heating/cooling seats are touch and are notoriously easy to accidentally hit (though on mine they are buttons)

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by wlesieutre »

judge2020 wrote: post #168
wlesieutre wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally the owner I’ve asked about it said it sucks. And he’s a native English speaker. How’s it do with accents? Maybe it’s been improved with hardware upgrades? His is around a 2017 I think.

An update came out around November of last year that vastly improved auto high-beams, and somewhat improved automatic windshield wiper performance.

I mean the voice control features specifically. Didn’t hear anything about the auto high beams and wipers which could imply they worked better than the voice recognition.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by bdcravens »

jerkstate wrote: post #191

I fully support this for basic environmental controls and audio, but there is a limit. I test drove a Kia EV6 GT recently and it has, IIRC, 4 up-down levers and about 8 or 10 other buttons on the steering wheel, flappy paddles, and stalks. Compared to Tesla (which I also test-drove), which has only two pushbutton scroll wheels and two stalks, and a big screen. the polar opposite. I think neither gets it exactly right…

I've had an EV6 for 6 months, and I don't find them counterintuitive.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by bdcravens »

mavu wrote: post #4

I bought a Peugeot over a VW because it has actual physical buttons. Keep pushing touch controls, I keep not buying your shit.

My wife has an ID.4, and they really have gone overboard with touch controls. You have only 2 sets of window controls (driver-side and passenger); you have to use a touch control to switch between front and back.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by WirelessGigabit »

Well, I wish BMW did the same. Wanted to go for the new BMW M2. But now instead of a well-integrated speedometer & central display they shaved it off of the dash and put in place this monstrosity of a wide screen. It's just bolted on with no sense of cohesion.

And with that the buttons for climate control are gone.

Want to turn on heated seats? Touch the screen. Change fan speed? Touch the screen.

All things that I can do blindly (eyes on the road, not eyes closed, but you get it), which now require looking AND finesse, because if I mis press who knows where the GPS will send me next...

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by bdcravens »

MobileVet wrote: post #133
DangitBobby wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chevy Bolt also costs over $10k less than the Model 3.

Yep. I had my eyes set on the Genesis GV60, but that car’s entry model (if you can find it) is $60k. The Bolt was $33k - 7.5k in tax rebates. It is an enormous value. It isn’t the Genesis for sure… but it’s 80% of that car for 40% the money.

The GV60 is the same platform as the Ioniq 5 and EV6. Ioniq is hard to find, but EV6's are relatively available.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

#199

Post by ladberg »

mavu wrote: post #4

I bought a Peugeot over a VW because it has actual physical buttons. Keep pushing touch controls, I keep not buying your shit.

Which VW? Except for the ID4, all recent models I've driven have physical buttons for everything I'd need to touch while driving.
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