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Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by tjchear »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #88

I guess one of my own issues with AI, is seeing how the tools we already have, have been twisted by greedy, ruthless people (many of whom are on this very venue). I was one of the people that started off in tech with dreams of a digital Nirvana. I ignored the "negative naysayers," and sallied forth, with an open heart, and hope for the future. I'm really quite disappointed in what we've done with these marvelous tool…

We're just trapped in the present day tech zeitgeist. Taking a step back and looking at things on a longer time scale, you'll see there has always been good people to keep things in balance, and the general state of things improves over time. There are great people working on tools to identify AI generated content, and even regular people will eventually catch up to the impact generative AI brings and adapt accordingly, like most other technologies / developments.

I'm optimistic we'll pull through.

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by alexthehurst »

ben_w wrote: post #153
WA wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internet would work just fine without smartphones. Smartphones would be pretty useless without internet.

Smartphones without the internet would be PDAs with amazing cameras. Still rather valuable, though with a somewhat lower set of price brackets for budget/medium/premium.

Agreed. Back when I was wringing the maximum utility out of every dollar, an iPod Touch alongside a feature phone provided a whole lot of usefulness for a few years, even with no mobile connection.

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by anon7725 »

asdff wrote: post #152
bsaul wrote: post #124

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I think the types of error chatgpt makes are indeed very similar to the ones a tesla autopilot does ( probably due to the nature of NN) There is one big difference though : there are TONS of tasks chatgpt can do that don't require 100% accuracy to be useful and actually replace humans.

What are some of those tasks humans are doing today where they need information but it doesn't have to be accurate information? Brainstorming for sitcoms?

If you populate the prompt with some context it can become highly accurate:

- billing/ordering/anything clerical: add the product catalog and customer details to the prompt

- customer support: add the entire support manual and customer history to the prompt, use devices like prompt tools to allow the model to pull in data from external systems

- sales/pre-sales: the "internet sales" team of car dealerships can be replaced with gpt

- medical billing/transcription: this one should be pretty obvious

- anything where customer communication/status is needed (half the job of a project manager)

- paralegal: prompt with details of document to be drawn up, which is then reviewed by a lawyer

- journalism/copywriting/editing: should be obvious

- admins/assistants

In some cases a role is completely replaced. In others, it allows for fewer people to support the same or higher output. People supervise the model and catch any errors rather than handle each task directly.

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by antibasilisk »

tjchear wrote: post #191
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #88

I guess one of my own issues with AI, is seeing how the tools we already have, have been twisted by greedy, ruthless people (many of whom are on this very venue). I was one of the people that started off in tech with dreams of a digital Nirvana. I ignored the "negative naysayers," and sallied forth, with an open heart, and hope for the future. I'm really quite disappointed in what we've done with these marvelous tool…

We're just trapped in the present day tech zeitgeist. Taking a step back and looking at things on a longer time scale, you'll see there has always been good people to keep things in balance, and the general state of things improves over time. There are great people working on tools to identify AI generated content, and even regular people will eventually catch up to the impact generative AI brings and adapt according…

>you'll see there has always been good people to keep things in balance

yes but technology has enabled good people to be shut down much more effectively

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by mrcartmeneses »

tjchear wrote: post #191
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #88

I guess one of my own issues with AI, is seeing how the tools we already have, have been twisted by greedy, ruthless people (many of whom are on this very venue). I was one of the people that started off in tech with dreams of a digital Nirvana. I ignored the "negative naysayers," and sallied forth, with an open heart, and hope for the future. I'm really quite disappointed in what we've done with these marvelous tool…

We're just trapped in the present day tech zeitgeist. Taking a step back and looking at things on a longer time scale, you'll see there has always been good people to keep things in balance, and the general state of things improves over time. There are great people working on tools to identify AI generated content, and even regular people will eventually catch up to the impact generative AI brings and adapt according…

Unfortunately the last time we had a publishing revolution we had two world wars before we got the press properly regulated. We’re now having two publishing revolutions within 30 years and are only in early stage fascism

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by anon7725 »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #82
celim307 wrote: post #17

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Her is a forward looking movie in a lot of ways Kids born today will grow up with their phones/device being their best friend and pet, like a Pokémon. You will be incredibly socially shunned if you don’t have one, and corporations will have not only data but an emotional hook into you for life

Talking to ChatGPT is like talking to a marketing ad copy robot. (Not surprising, because that's basically what it is.) I couldn't imagine something more square and unhip for kids-these-days. It can't even parrot this year's memes!

Sure, because it's tuned to be a corporate drone. You can easily tune it to respond using whatever tone you want. If it dropped the f bomb and mispelled things it would probably pass the Turing test with most people.

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by dragonwriter »

anon7725 wrote: post #196
otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking to ChatGPT is like talking to a marketing ad copy robot. (Not surprising, because that's basically what it is.) I couldn't imagine something more square and unhip for kids-these-days. It can't even parrot this year's memes!

Sure, because it's tuned to be a corporate drone. You can easily tune it to respond using whatever tone you want. If it dropped the f bomb and mispelled things it would probably pass the Turing test with most people.

> You can easily tune it

You literally can’t [0], though you can prompt it.

[0] Unless you are an OpenAI insider or someone else with privileged access to the model that isn’t provided to the public.

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by Nevermark »

sli wrote: post #156
trekkie1024 wrote: post #127

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Personally I think there’s a distinction to be made between generative AI and that of say, self driving cars. I’d definitely consider the latter a net positive for safety.

Massive net negative for anyone who can't afford a new car once those become required. Without expansion of public transportation basically everywhere, self-driving cars are a money making method that will lock out millions of people, not a real solution.

Time sharing of self-driving cars will be very inexpensive. Biggest cost now is drivers.

Think about how little time utilization most cars get.

That blurs the line between public and private, in a good way.

In tandem to self-driving, electric car hardware keeps getting cheaper. Projected lifetimes keep getting longer. So the economics are going to trend better for quite a while.

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by ROTMetro »

letrowekwel wrote: post #98
mromanuk wrote: post #60

> The rise of AI will free people up to do things that software never will—teaching, caring for patients, and supporting the elderly, for example. Every sci-fi movie show any of those jobs as replaced by AI (or robots). Probably they will not achieve the same level of connection (mostly because they will lack a human body to make expressions, at least at the beginning). Those jobs will be replaced, not because there…

I'm not holding my breath while waiting for an AI based solution that can go to elderly patient's home, give them medicine, clean their house and help them with other daily activities. This would require highly advanced robotics and ability to maneuver in varying physical environments, so far we have nothing even close to that. I believe AI might instead replace a lot of work done by journalists, software devs, manag…

What is the profit motive to make a robot with that capability today without the AI to drive it? None. But as soon as you have that AI suddenly the profit motive changes.

Re: The Age of AI has begun

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Post by anon7725 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #197
anon7725 wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, because it's tuned to be a corporate drone. You can easily tune it to respond using whatever tone you want. If it dropped the f bomb and mispelled things it would probably pass the Turing test with most people.

> You can easily tune it You literally can’t [0], though you can prompt it. [0] Unless you are an OpenAI insider or someone else with privileged access to the model that isn’t provided to the public.

I mean that ChatGPT sounding like a "marketing ad copy robot" is not an inherent limitation of ChatGPT, it's merely the finishing stage of its training process. If OpenAI wanted to, they could have a hundred ChatGPT flavors.
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