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Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by hungryforcodes »

vkou wrote: post #103
paxys wrote: post #62

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While I agree with your premise, the "toil" that you mention is a very small use case for a tiny minority of people. And automating it away has always been trivial. What would have taken 30 minutes to write a Python script now takes 5 minutes to come up with the perfect prompt. And then you have to test and be sure that it does what you want. Neat, but not world-changing. Meanwhile ChatGPT is already being hailed as…

> Meanwhile ChatGPT is already being hailed as the Google killer. The only Google-killing aspect of it is a better understanding of user queries. Although given how often I have to remind it of the details of my questions, maybe it's not even good at that.

> ...a better understanding of user queries.

No, lack of ads. Before content marketing, Google was pretty useful

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by danielvaughn »

harperlee wrote: post #180
Felminor wrote: post #140

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Just imagine how many little code snippets you used (at least I did) to make my life easier and faster A script which parses jaon for a specific key or transforming a table from y to z. Now everyone has this available to them. It's great already!

But those are the low hanging fruit that help me avoid rusting skills… and this is a common phenomenon on automation: you destroy the first rungs on the experience ladder, that no one wants to do but are essential to develop foundational skills.

That's a pretty good point. I'm looking at this from the perspective of having done this for over a decade. All that stuff feels like a waste of time to me now. Even as I was using ChatGPT for my fake data, I was thinking to myself "this is like having a junior dev assisting me". So yeah, those little micro tasks that build muscle memory are going to vanish.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by vkou »

hungryforcodes wrote: post #191
vkou wrote: post #103

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> Meanwhile ChatGPT is already being hailed as the Google killer. The only Google-killing aspect of it is a better understanding of user queries. Although given how often I have to remind it of the details of my questions, maybe it's not even good at that.

> ...a better understanding of user queries. No, lack of ads. Before content marketing, Google was pretty useful

How do you think it's going to be monetized, if not by ads?

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by throwaway675309 »

ilaksh wrote: post #72
ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #5

Today at work I hadnt used apache spark in a long time. I needed to do some quick and dirty data analytics on large datasets. Rather than read documentation, I just put the queries i needed in english into chatGPT, and it spit out perfectly working code. The queries werent that complex, but it saved me hours googling a bunch of random spark SQL syntax. The old school way is google sends you links, and through those c…

Well.. if we are doing ChatGPT anecdotes.. today I tried to "launch" the new version of https://aidev.codes . It integrates the ChatGPT API with Stability.ai (stable diffusion) for generating images and well as Eleven Labs text-to-speech and can create and immediately host an interactive web page on a custom subdomain. I need marketing help. Or I should just stop trying. I don't see how people are able to get posts o…

It's not helping that you are constantly hijacking threads which are really only tangentially related to promote your app.

As far as the website premise itself, I feel like this might've been useful 20 years ago when it was more popular to write static vanilla HTML with jquery sprinkled in. These days, if a person wants a relatively no code solution they're gonna go for WordPress or square space, otherwise they're probably going to design something using a framework such as react svelt or vue.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by breakingcups »

goatlover wrote: post #17
swatcoder wrote: post #9

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Hah. Of course the authors are not aware. OpenAI handed this tool to people with effectively no guidance or instructions so that they can trade on the glow of misconceptions and harvest user data. The whole point of giving the thing away for free these last few months is to let people make fools of themselves like this while pumping up OpenAI’s value as a technology firm. It’s no accident that they don’t engage to cl…

The concern is the increasing number of anecdotes where people are taking ChatGPT's output at face value, even though everyone knows by now that it does sometimes get stuff wrong and does hallucinate. I thought it would take longer.

Case in point: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35031737

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Post by IanCal »

simonw wrote: post #167
IanCal wrote: post #146

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You mean it prompted you to go and get the contents of the page? Chatgpt does not access the internet when running. Bing chat does though.

Even Bing can't make outbound HTTP requests - it can only access cached snapshots of pages held in the Bing search index. I confirmed this on Twitter with one of the Bing execs: https://twitter.com/mparakhin/status/1628646262890237952

Cool, I really hope they open this up. It feels like being able to restrict it to either a subset of public pages or private data would immediately be extremely useful and only a small conceptual change from what's there.

I just built this locally over our RFCs and it's good but a properly integrated thing would be fantastic.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by hungryforcodes »

vkou wrote: post #193
hungryforcodes wrote: post #191

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> ...a better understanding of user queries. No, lack of ads. Before content marketing, Google was pretty useful

How do you think it's going to be monetized, if not by ads?

In what sense? Google has many revenue streams -- the year is 2023, not 1997. Just HAVING the number one search engine without ad revenues brings mind share, intelligence on trends, what people are searching for, advanced notice on possible disasters...the list is endless.

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Post by pyuser583 »

fock wrote: post #153
stevenhuang wrote: post #127

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Here's an attempt. Looks pretty good to me. It's sort of like, how would you imagine an expert would respond if all you said was "simulate a discussion between a flow engineer and geologist". Without providing any further context or hints into what you want, I also wouldn't be surprised if I get a generic response. But instead if you sort of know what you want to ask, they'd have more to work with and be able to bett…

Oh yeah - and now I change this and suddenly the thing is fun and slightly unreal: "Simulate a discussion between a project manager and a public health officer in the planning phases of a drill operation. Use field-specific terminology and aim for accuracy, the scenario will be used to teach a petroleum engineering class focused on public relations." GPT: > Project Manager: Good morning, I'm glad to have you here to…

Sounds like it was written by David Lynch.

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Post by barrysteve »

kristopolous wrote: post #188
barrysteve wrote: post #150

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Manners and conduct existed before eugenics and continues to exist after eugenics. You can't pull one blighted moment in the 1920s as proof the whole idea is faulty. There is little accuracy in your description of events. Peterson said we share serotonin with lobsters and it fuels a victory/defeat set of behaviours. If you drop the serotonin from his idea, it's no longer what he was talking about. Your description fa…

I genuinely appreciate your engagement but this exact thing is what I was trying to avoid as a time suck. This type of literature has been a hobby of mine for years and recently I've noticed that I've given myself some expertise. Hopefully I'll be motivated to write a more complete volume in the future. It takes many pages to build proper context here. Thanks. I've read your reply but I'm trying to be judicious with…

I don't mean anything toward you, by my comment. We obviously come from different traditions, and I can't really ever find agreement with how your argument is structured. My conclusions could be wrong, but I won't ever really know without a lot more reading of your thought, which we're both not going to give time to do. I should be more careful how much meaning I load onto the word "you" in comments, I only meant to criticize your written beliefs.

Good luck.

Re: ChatGPT is now finding bugs in databases

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Post by taskforcegemini »

paxys wrote: post #19
crazysim wrote: post #3

ChatGPT can't access the external internet. The example ChatGPT instruction where they "teach it" just has the user giving it a URL to their docs and ChatGPT is like "oh ok got it" (Figure 3). I'm not sure if the blog post writers are aware it's hallucinating what the JSON implementation is and hasn't actually read the documentation at all.

There's this internet phenomenon (common on Reddit and other such forums) where you find high-quality discussions on a variety of topics and everyone seems so clever and informative, until you come across a thread on a topic that you are actually an expert on and find that every top-voted comment is objectively incorrect. ChatGPT is essentially that but on steroids. Its primary ability is being able to sound extremel…

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