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Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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How do I find out if this change affects me? I have been a Gandi customer for 5+ years, and I have bought domains til 2026, and I rely on their free email. But I haven't received any communication about changes in pricing.

Same here.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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This is why I only use service A for domains. And service B for emails.

Always separate vendors for separate services. Choices of convenience will always be waiting in the future. Choosing a path that is not the most convenient (just slightly less) can go a long way.

Additionally, DevOps is actually scarier than self-hosting, or self-managing the hosting yourself.

Wherever you register a domain, make sure you practice transferring a domain in, and then out well in advance of ever needing it.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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> I've purchased domains from Gandi, pre-paying for multiple years of service such that some domains I have don't need renewing until 2027. Just in case you did not know: if you transfer to a different registrar, you will not lose the extra years of registration. You can confirm the expected expiration date of 2027 at lookup.icann.org.

> if you transfer to a different registrar, you will not lose the extra years of registration

I did not know that. But how do you do it? And where to find a list of reputable registrars (which seems the rarest of species)?

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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I use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.

Suggestions for service B? Every single service I can find always seems such a pain to go in and add a subdomain and change something.

I've been relatively happy using digital ocean for DNS.

Even run a dyndns script to have a subdomain for my wireguard connections to home.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Suggestions for service B? Every single service I can find always seems such a pain to go in and add a subdomain and change something.

Digitalocean.

Same.. API access is pretty nice too... I run a simple script for dyndns at home.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#197

I have quite a few domains with Gandi, using their email service on a few because I'm lazy and it's free. Not sure when (or if) I'll receive notice of this change. Maybe it's regional? Seems most of the comments show £ as currency. This is going to burn all of their goodwill they accumulated with the "no bullshit" slogan. I will be swiftly moving all my domains, likely to Porkbun.

Why Porkbun? What makes a good domain registrar these days (almost everyone is or has been acquired by someone doing something questionable)?

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Contracts are only as good as the wealth, power, and ability you have to fight in court and ensure they get enforced. Which is why they 1. usually have lopsided boilerplate terms that protect only the powerful party, 2. are usually largely written by the wealthy, powerful corporation, and 3. usually only enforced against the relatively powerless consumer. In the ideal fantasy world, contracts are supposed to be "meet…

> when I think of "contract" today, I immediately think "weapon used by a company to beat up a consumer" This view is unsupported by the facts in all competent jurisdictions. It’s a convenient one, however, for certain people to spread.

One of the first things you learn about in contract law after the elements of contract formation is the idea of unconscionability, but it's often construed by courts in such narrow terms that consumers who are pressured or tricked into handing over their money have little recourse.

https://californialawreview.org/print/unconscionability-as-a...

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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We're getting bitten by this in the Netherlands as well. Two domain registrars, PCExtreme and Neostrada, merged with Versio, and Versio is now owned by TWS. My company has domains registered with Versio (and PCExtreme and Neostrada), but the control panel was showing multiple domains wrongly flagged as 'processing', and actually getting through to customer service takes the better part of day by now. I'm not looking…

Any suggestion of a good serious independent European registrar?

I am happy with OVH. Only bit that’s missing is IPv6 for dynamic IPs.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Contracts are only as good as the wealth, power, and ability you have to fight in court and ensure they get enforced. Which is why they 1. usually have lopsided boilerplate terms that protect only the powerful party, 2. are usually largely written by the wealthy, powerful corporation, and 3. usually only enforced against the relatively powerless consumer. In the ideal fantasy world, contracts are supposed to be "meet…

In California at least, a small claim is pretty efficient as long as the claim is more than the modest filing fee. They can't hire an outside lawyer to handle it, either. If they have an inside one they can use that, but anyway. I've had great success this way against United Airlines, Toyota, and other bigs.

Here in Indiana, in many jurisdictions companies have to hire outside counsel to go to small claims. This means that it can be quite expensive to litigate for businesses against legitimate small claims.
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