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HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Post by arein3 »

throw0101c wrote: post #46
lchengify wrote: post #23

For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was a HP customer for decades . I had models going back to perforated paper dot-matrix printers. Finally last year I had a down-and-out fight to get my HP to do a basic task, and I bit the bullet and ordered a Brother at the recommendation of my friend. My mfc-l3750cdw Broth…

> For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was under the impression that newer Brother firmware versions had restrictions: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31860131 I have an HL-L2360D, but my firmware is from 2015 (with no plans to upgrade), so have no idea if anything has changed recently.

Printer firmware going full circle.

I think that was the initial push RMS needed to start his open source movement, printer drivers. Firmware sould be next :)

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Post by indrora »

neilv wrote: post #142

If you have a modern HP printer that currently works fine, and you want to delay buying a different brand, you might want to: 1. be using open source drivers (e.g., one of the CUPS PCL drivers, preferably on Linux or BSD) on all possible clients; 2. isolate the printer from direct network access (e.g., don't connect printer's Ethernet or WiFi, and instead run CUPS on a RasPi, which talks to the printer only via USB);…

Newer HP printers are also beginning to simply refuse to work without first being connected to wifi, even if there's a USB connection. I've seen it happen to two friends of mine. Outright refuses to not connect to a wifi network, uses its own DNS and all.

CUPS PCL drivers for these devices are nonexistent. You're at this point forced to use HP's windows software which *emulates a Parallel port* in at least one case.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Post by Anarch157a »

RajT88 wrote: post #127
lchengify wrote: post #23

For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was a HP customer for decades . I had models going back to perforated paper dot-matrix printers. Finally last year I had a down-and-out fight to get my HP to do a basic task, and I bit the bullet and ordered a Brother at the recommendation of my friend. My mfc-l3750cdw Broth…

I recently bought an old Brother laserjet for 100 bucks off Craigslist. The guy thought he was scamming me, because the autofeed tray didn't work. I'll get that fixed in due time. But the manual feed tray which still takes a stack of 15-20 pages works fine. The bigger issue is my wife tells me I can't drill another hole for an Ethernet jack for it and have to make it wireless...

A RaspberryPi sharing the printer over the network would do the trick. Stick it to the back of the printer, the LAN port connected to it, while sharing overthe WiFi.

It works for 3D printing with OctoPi, it should work with 2d printers with Samba.

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Post by throwawaylinux »

I had a trusty Bother MFC for years. It recently broke and I was looking around for another one when I realized that I might print a handful of things a year, so I used a printing service. Pretty painless experience and very wide range of options for quality and size if I ever needed that would be totally out of reach of even a very expensive home printer setup.

Per-page for basic black text is a lot more than you could do with a laser printer but even a very cheap printer costs more than the combined cost of what I'm likely to ever print again. If my prediction is wrong and I find myself printing vast amounts of things I can buy a printer and eat loss of a few bucks. Feels good to have one less "thing" too.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Post by 6510 »

gigel82 wrote: post #116
Algemarin wrote: post #29

What I find notable whenever something like this is in the news, is that these user-hostile features don't just manifest through abiogenesis, or spontaneous generation. User-hostile features are created by people. Just once, I would like to see an AMA by someone who was directly involved in creating a user-hostile feature - whether it's locking down printers or any of the countless other examples that come up on a we…

I saw a PM during a large company meeting Q&A eagerly talking about how we're not leveraging our existing customers enough to sell more products and how we should have advertisements in product A for (largely unrelated) product B because we have a large enough user base. The VP's face lit up and our product has ads now :( The PM got a promotion - I bet some metrics moved enough to "show impact", but no one asked them…

More eyeballs on ads, it's the future, we have our best and brightest on it.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Post by dustymcp »

lchengify wrote: post #23

For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was a HP customer for decades . I had models going back to perforated paper dot-matrix printers. Finally last year I had a down-and-out fight to get my HP to do a basic task, and I bit the bullet and ordered a Brother at the recommendation of my friend. My mfc-l3750cdw Broth…

This is the key answer here, i switched from a HP to a brother everything just works now, and i dont have to download 1gb "driver packages".

Hp is the worst company for any hardware needs, all their laptops/dektops sucked so much, back in the day in my electronics shop they where the ones with the worst return/faults rate, by a big margin.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Post by Freak_NL »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #143
coda_ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also like my brother, but it will attempt to detect and reject non-authentic ink. I don't update mine anymore because the last time I did, it rejected my cartridges.

What about your sister, thought?

Yes; a lame pun, but my first thought reading that was 'Well yeah, I like my brother too, but what does that have to with — oh right'.

The printer manufacturer is 'Brother', your brother is just 'brother', except if he's also part of a fraternal order.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Post by thiht »

lchengify wrote: post #23

For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was a HP customer for decades . I had models going back to perforated paper dot-matrix printers. Finally last year I had a down-and-out fight to get my HP to do a basic task, and I bit the bullet and ordered a Brother at the recommendation of my friend. My mfc-l3750cdw Broth…

I bought a Brother inkjet printer last year. It was a bit expensive but it just works flawlessly. I don't even use it that often but it doesn't betray me when I need it, I press print and it works.
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