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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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> Because it validates your decision to pay 1000$ for a phone The $399 iPhone SE from 2016 got six years of OS updates and just got another security update last month.

Edit: miss remembered test result.

> And one of the worst "performance for buck" scores in recent MKBHD camera blind test.

1. The test covered the 2022 iPhoneSE, not the 2016 version that your parent was talking about.

2. The iPhone SE 3 had the 3rd highest "votes per dollar"[1].

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1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdjmGimh04&t=470s

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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The one, and only benchmark, I care about is battery longevity. Not how long battery lasts before needing charge, but how many years it lasts before dropping to say 80% of original capacity that it needs to be replaced or the phone needs to be updated. Most, if not all, modern phones are performant enough that I won’t need to update for a long time, if not for the battery issues. At least for my use case.

But, the battery chemistry is almost the same across the phones. There is no magic sauce for one phone company. However, bigger batteries generally last longer, because they go through less full cycle refreshes. Getting better battery chemistry is the same order of difficulty as curing a particular cancer! May be you care about cheaper battery swaps, and that is something we all can get behind.

And as an addendum to this, faster/more efficient processors mean the phone takes less time before it goes back into a low powered mode. There's a strong correlation here.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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>You would want a USB-C connector so you can drive every device you own with one cable I have a shitton of hardware and cables that I'm not going to throw away just for some connector that will be phased out in ten years. >You would want Gecko if you like arbitrary extensions On my desktop, sure. On my phone? Why bother? >And you'd want to run arbitrary code on a machine you own because phones are computers Disagree.

> I have a shitton of hardware and cables that I'm not going to throw away just for some connector that will be phased out in ten years. Most people already have USB-C cables. Apple people often have them b/c of a MacBook or w/e. > On my desktop, sure. On my phone? Why bother? Dark Mode, Ad Blocking, etc. > Disagree Freedom is important, even if you don't need it now. Someone else, maybe you in the future, may need i…

> Freedom is important, even if you don't need it now. Someone else, maybe you in the future, may need it.

I will switch to Android if I ever need the ability to use my phone like a PC. So far (10-ish years), that hasn't happened.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

You don't. It's widely discredited for comparing platforms. They also cherry picked JUST single core performance here (which has 0 bearing in any real life usage scenario).

Don't take it from me, take it from Linus Torvalds (you know, the guy who created Linux) - https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=136526&curpost...

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. I wish this was true for my old Android phone. I still have a OnePlus5 lying in my drawer, which still has stellar performance, but doesn't get any new software features.

Yah that comment should be amended to: faster performance today means there’s no technical reason the phone couldn’t stick around for longer.

Of course the manufacturer could just choose to screw you over by not updating/not letting you update your self. But I mean there’s no way to account for bad behavior on the part of manufacturers (other than not doing business with them anymore of course).

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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For people with the means to afford it, iOS devices are superior in most ways: from performance to utility to lifetime. They lack features a rounding-error fraction of users care about, like side-loading for example.

Performance? Maybe. Lifetime? Maybe. Utility? No. The extra restrictions Apple packs on cuts utility. No emulators, no NFC pairing, no auto-sorting your app pages alphabetically, worse notifications, no grabbing that file off a USB C drive, etc. Certainly never got some of the weird but useful things Android phones have had like being a universal remote. Android phones can do everything iPhones can plus more. You can debate whether or not it's more rough around the edges but they just simply do more.

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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No that’s because your battery is old. Swap the battery and that “slow old phone” suddenly has the exact same speed as the current flagship

Interesting! i would have expected old battery to lead to keeping a charge for less time, but can you explain how it leads to worse perceived performance?

It’s not perceived but actually worse. iOS reduces speed to improve battery-life

Re: Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. Every flagship iPhone since 2011 has gotten at least five years of OS updates, with some of the more recent models getting six years. Security updates extend past that.

Having the latest iOS is not the same as having the latest iOS on the latest hardware. As years go by, you get less features or less snappier experience. When my iPhone 6s received iOS 15, it didn't get the coolest stuff and the device performance was already less than decent. Even if the iOS itself wasn't slowing it down, the apps for iOS were made with expectation of higher performance.

As opposed to tossing an Android device into the landfill because it doesn't get any software support at all after a limited time?

> Six years is an awfully long life span for a mobile device, and certainly puts the 6S in the running for the longest supported phone to date. The iPhone 5S was five years old when it got its last OS update with iOS 12 but wasn’t eligible for iOS 13. On the Android side, Samsung has made recent moves to improve its device longevity by offering four years of security support for some of its phones. But six years of OS updates and security support puts the 6S in an entirely different league.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/8/22523351/ios-15-iphone-6s-...

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