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Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by somenameforme »

amf12 wrote: post #95

Its fun to see all the people reacting "Google's Bard shows incorrect information", and at the same time say "Google is done, they couldn't even release a LLM chatbot first". Think how bad it would have been if Google released Bard first and it returned inaccurate information, or worse was racist. LLMs are just language generating models and may not be fully accurate.

That's not the point. ChatGPT says all sorts of stupid stuff. It's expected. Showing an ad where your LLM is saying stupid stuff, as an example of its capabilities, is amusing because it's obviously unintentional yet completely and absolutely appropriate. It'd be like a live Coke ad that said "Drink Coke and you can be like this guy!" while accidentally panning over to an obese manblob instead of e.g. Usain Bolt.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by caconym_ »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #174
caconym_ wrote: post #130

This isn't incorrect, it's just ambiguous. The JWST did indeed "take the first pictures" of a planet outside our solar system ( https://www.npr.org/2023/01/12/1148626359/nasa-webb-telescop... ). However, we have previously directly imaged other exoplanets using different instruments—it's just that this exoplanet in particular (LHS 475 b) has never been directly imaged before Webb. It's the sort of question where you…

Nobody is going to interpret "a" as "some particular". The fact is incorrect.

I am glad you were able to offer your opinion here.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by supermatt »

scarface74 wrote: post #78
supermatt wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not the complexity of building intents that costs the money. Near real-time speech inference at scale doesn’t come for free. It’s only very recently that has started moving to the edge.

Speech inference has been done well enough locally for well over a decade. While an Alexa device probably couldn’t do it, any modern iPhone could.

> Speech inference has been done well enough locally for well over a decade

The first Alexa device was released in March 2014 - almost 9 years ago. Siri was a couple of years before that.

> While an Alexa device probably couldn’t do it, any modern iPhone could.

And that is why it is done in the cloud and has only recently started moving to the edge.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by duckmysick »

techsupporter wrote: post #46
jeffbee wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell from the tweet why the Bard response is wrong. Is it because some other instrument has taken an image of an exoplanet, or because no instrument has ever done so? ChatGPT seems to believe it is the latter.

Another instrument took an image of an exoplanet, in 2005. https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/resources/300/2m1207b-first-imag...

Your LLM needs fine-tuning, the linked article says it's 2004:

> 2M1207b is the first exoplanet directly imaged and the first discovered orbiting a brown dwarf. It was imaged the first time by the VLT in 2004.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by hcks »

andrewstuart wrote: post #166

If you are expecting AI to be correct then you are holding it wrong. The correct way to relate to AI is to listen and if the answer matters, verify.

I’m expecting the marketing material to not have mistakes in it, especially when the gist of the article surrounding it is “we’re taking it slow because we want to ensure it doesn’t spit bullshit”

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by happymellon »

enobrev wrote: post #68
partiallypro wrote: post #18

I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…

> Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be good at launch In my own experience, Alexa and Google's query pucks were improving for a short time, and then got considerably worse, losing features every month until they basically stopped understanding or responding to anything but the simplest requests. A couple months after released, they expanded android auto with the same abilities, so I could "ok go…

There is also the crap around regions. I'm in the UK, but if I set my assistant to the the US suddenly it can understand a lot more and perform a lot more tasks.

Although while it understands a lot more, it's still getting worse.

Same about my Fitbit Versa. It was great, and now Google removes features.

At this point I would just prefer it if they let me just replace the firmware with one of the opensource projects. Can I replace my Alexa or Google puck firmware with something better?

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by sinuhe69 »

trynewideas wrote: post #106
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #42

What does experimental mean?

A test that generates evidence or demonstrates a known truth, which Bard also apparently can't do, and which the marketing team didn't do before making this ad.

Sorry but you’re incorrect.

Oxford dictionary says: “experimental is adjective. 1. (of a new invention or product) based on untested ideas or techniques and not yet established or finalized: an experimental drug. 2. (of art or an artistic technique) involving a radically new and innovative style: experimental music.”

I don’t believe you didn’t known the meaning of the word but you intentionally twisted it. I find it a bit ironic.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by richardjam73 »

caconym_ wrote: post #130

This isn't incorrect, it's just ambiguous. The JWST did indeed "take the first pictures" of a planet outside our solar system ( https://www.npr.org/2023/01/12/1148626359/nasa-webb-telescop... ). However, we have previously directly imaged other exoplanets using different instruments—it's just that this exoplanet in particular (LHS 475 b) has never been directly imaged before Webb. It's the sort of question where you…

If JWST took a picture of LHS 475b then where is the picture? Isn't exoplanet HIP 65426b the first that JWST took a picture of?
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