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Re: 43 Hours on the Amtrak Southwest Chief

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I find it pretty unsettling how many people are raving about travel by train. If your standards are insanely low then I suppose you can say the food is good, dining with random people is fun and the cabins are comfortable.

It's a low bar to clear when you're comparing to the comfort and food on a typical flight nowadays. Of course, the train trip will be longer so, tradeoffs.

> Of course, the train trip will be longer so, tradeoffs.

If you count everything in, a high speed train is faster or close enough (but compensating with much higher levels of comfort and most of the time being spent in the train itself, not separated in travel to airport, queuing there, wasting time there, boarding, flying, disembarking, waiting for luggage, travel from airport) with air travel less than 3 hours.

Re: 43 Hours on the Amtrak Southwest Chief

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So, do normal people not feel like they’re going to throw up literally the entire train ride? I had a hard time taking a half hour train ride, much less a long one, but I also have a hard time being in the back seat of someone else’s car. I feel like they must not because it’s very seldom talked about. But googling it says 1 in 3 people experience motion sickness. Maybe mine is just really severe? Without Dramamine o…

In Europe the trains are much much more stable than anything else (planes, cars, bus, etc.).

Also, in europe (Or at least austria) the trains are timed to line up with buses for the most part. Which makes commuting a breeze. Oh and they are mostly on time.

Re: 43 Hours on the Amtrak Southwest Chief

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If you are a light sleeper I would not recommend taking an overnight train, especially on Amtrak. I took the Empire Builder from Seattle to Chicago once and found it essentially impossible to sleep for three days, which killed whatever romanticized notions I previously had about train travel.

The train is constantly rumbling over the tracks, the horn is being blared at every crossing, and PA announcements happen throughout the night. Even with earplugs I could not fall asleep. Oh and the train arrived 20 hours late.

YMMV, but my advice is to do a short trip before trying a long one!

Re: 43 Hours on the Amtrak Southwest Chief

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This past summer, I took the Coast Starlight from Seattle to Monterey with my wife and kids. I loved it. It's hard to convey how different it is from flying. Whenever I fly somewhere, especially these days when flying is such a miserable cramped experience, I always feel like my vacation starts after I endure the entire airport + plane experience. The whole travel part is in the same "chore" bucket as packing, findin…

So, do normal people not feel like they’re going to throw up literally the entire train ride? I had a hard time taking a half hour train ride, much less a long one, but I also have a hard time being in the back seat of someone else’s car. I feel like they must not because it’s very seldom talked about. But googling it says 1 in 3 people experience motion sickness. Maybe mine is just really severe? Without Dramamine o…

I can't stomach tilt trains. But otherwise trains are better than automobiles or coaches. Flights with turbulence are also not good for my stomach.

Re: 43 Hours on the Amtrak Southwest Chief

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Is it possible to book a ticket that has multiple stops? I considered doing this trip ten years ago and making the most of a three month tourist visa as I did it. What put me off then was that I couldn’t say, spend a few days in Colorado if I liked it then get back on another train, much like inter rail lets one do.

Re: 43 Hours on the Amtrak Southwest Chief

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In Europe the trains are much much more stable than anything else (planes, cars, bus, etc.).

Also, in europe (Or at least austria) the trains are timed to line up with buses for the most part. Which makes commuting a breeze. Oh and they are mostly on time.

Yup. Experienced this in Switzerland when heading to a mountain village. 2 trains and 2 buses, all with 3 to 5 minute connections. Has worked flawlessly every time I've tried it so far.

Re: 43 Hours on the Amtrak Southwest Chief

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I took the Coastal Starlight SF-LA train this winter with young kids and family and it was an a very nice upgrade to the usual car drive (keeping the littlest one strapped in a car seat for 7 hrs would have been miserable). The views, the conversations, the slower pace, and the adventure / novelty were the best parts and enjoyed by everyone. The price was also much better than flying, as there was a lot of us. Having bathrooms and food and an ability to move around is a huge upgrade on travel with kids. We did business class as the ride was not overnight, but did both legs - 12 hrs each to enjoy the views of the ocean during daytime on the way back. Best part of the trip!

There are some down sides as well:

1. Norovirus - the bathrooms had comical “no touch” stickers by the sink that was definitely not no touch (you had to push the button constantly to get water, even in business class, the economy ones were worse). As a result, we all caught a stomach bug on the way down that played out fully for the kids on the way back. Bring spare clothes and more hygiene products than normal. The upside: we had bathrooms and cleaning materials at our disposal to clean up the mess and we didn’t have to stop anywhere to do it.

2. The business class felt less cramped than coach, and the conversations with strangers were excellent, there were also people on the train that were giving headaches to the train attendants (people sneaking in alcohol and bothering other passengers, people who would not be allowed to fly etc). Normally that’s not an issue, but with little kids on board, we had to be extra careful. On the upside, train is also the best way to travel if you are alone and we met amazing people who were sharing their life story and enjoying a captive audience you wouldn’t get with any other form of travel.

3. The food, while surprisingly good on a first meal (compared to airline food), was also very surprisingly insufficient on the last leg of all of their trips (which SF to LA was). The cafe was emptied out of food by early afternoon, and the dining car REFUSED to serve or even make TOGO food for anyone who was not in a sleeper car. We had a lot of hangry family who was was excited for a meal and ended up eating chips and junk food instead.

4. Because the food provider is a monopoly on the train, they also seemed to short customers of the dining car in what they were paying for with their prix-fix meals, which is your only option on the dining car. Every person pays the same price for a multiple item meal, but we were not told that or offered parts of the meal we were due until we found out and started asking for them on each meal. Since you can’t hop off the train to grab food elsewhere, make sure to bring snacks and alternatives with you.

TLDR: Great with kids, cheaper and less stressful than air or car, but mind your hygiene and bring food backup if you’re not in a sleeper car.

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