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How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Right but the point is you at least need to notfiy them first and give them the chance to do something. If you're unsatified with what they've done, or lack thereof, then sure.

"Hello, 911? I'd like to report a stalker. If you don't handle it in 30 minutes or less, I will attack. I woke up today and chose violence..."

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Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

#192
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right but the point is you at least need to notfiy them first and give them the chance to do something. If you're unsatified with what they've done, or lack thereof, then sure.

"Hello, 911? I'd like to report a stalker. If you don't handle it in 30 minutes or less, I will attack. I woke up today and chose violence..."

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Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

#193
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right but the point is you at least need to notfiy them first and give them the chance to do something. If you're unsatified with what they've done, or lack thereof, then sure.

"Hello, 911? I'd like to report a stalker. If you don't handle it in 30 minutes or less, I will attack. I woke up today and chose violence..."

> or less, I will attack.

  Copy written lyrics so they can't be stolen
  If they are, Snap! Don't need the police
  To try to save them, your voice will cease
  So please, stay off my back
  Or I will attack, and you don't want that

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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post #162
post #72

> Side note for Bumble — this is what we would call an “entity resolution” problem, leading to safety problems for your platform. When someone installs your app, you need to detect whether they have already installed it previously. If they have, then their activity (including blocks and people who have already declined them) should be linked to this new account. What is Bumble supposed to do if the user asks them to…

Replying just because we had a basic GDPR training just yesterday. You can't do that and you are right about the deletion of data to a point, but once there are legal reasons (like in this case) you don't have to comply to the request to delete the data. But I would guess it would be too complicated to manage all this, considering the size of Bumble and where the incident happened and where Bumble is located.

What is the legal reason in this case? Ban evasion on a social media app doesn't sound illegal.

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

#195
post #3

Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…

Hi, this is my article. I know it's a long read, but I presume you didn't read the whole article. We certainly didn't skip notifying the police. The whole point of the article is that we did the opposite - gathered enough evidence so that the police could do their job. The police were never going to do a stake out like we did. Citizen's arrest is not such a unusual thing to do. We would not have messed with him if he…

Additional context for Americans: we basically don’t have guns in Britain. The most dangerous thing these guys did was nearly get run over by the stalker fleeing in his car.

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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post #3

Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…

The part that jumped out was, > we get ready to make a “citizen’s arrest” That is so stupid. They are very lucky they didn't get the chance to try that.

it's Scotland. Making a citizen's arrest is not so crazy.

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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Unfortunately, I can offer some insight. In the past I have been obsessive. Had I not got help I could have ended up like the stalker in the story. It starts out innocent enough. Dating involves lots of subtle signals and cues. I remember calling someone many many times in one day, thinking "There's a possibility I'm being strange, but there's also a chance that she's just not home. If I don't call and call again I c…

thanks for posting this insight, I would add that there are positive feedback loops from some parts of your behavior and would also counter the brother's conclusion that "sending an additional message never works" in these kinds of threads, everyone is already primed to the worst case toxic scenario, or some other uncollaborative toxic scenario, specifically from the idea of the lowest denominator man harassing women…

You must be tall, white or project a lot of status/coolness in your own instagram, because honestly this approach doesn't work for 99.9% of men that try (and it's not because of lack of trying!)

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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post #114

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Why do you have to neutralize them into ‘people close to her’? They are her brothers. Call it like it is. Every brother-sister relationship I’ve known is distinctly different than brother-brother or sister-sister relationships.

Agreed. Three sisters would not have gone this route and the police would likely have done nothing until after the stalking had escalated further. Also, 1 brother might not have attempted this either, especially considering the guy was a large creep and smart enough to wear a mask. Nor would a woman allow her sisters to go vigilante for her. These guys were quite restrained. I know families with 3 or more brothers an…

Please don't take the following as a flamebait, or gaslighting, or whatever, I mean it in the best and most polite way possible.

Your comment is still mildly sexist in my view. You say that brothers would do this, you say that sisters would not do this (the woman would not allow them to do this).

I think that position is unfair. Surely there are many men who wouldn't do it or who wouldn't be capable of doing it. Also surely there are many women who would do it and who would be perfectly capable of doing it.

The differentiator between the siblings who would do this kind of action and those who would not is not their gender. The differentiator is their guts, the way they think, their physical abilities and their confidence in their physical abilities. It correlates with their gender, but it is not determined by their gender.

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To be clear I don't consider this a major issue, just want to express it better.

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

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post #96

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Haha, the funny thing is that the service isn’t even storing that piece of data – the user is! So GDPR, etc. should be covered. Although, if the user finds out about the mechanism they can just delete the entry from their keychain.

That keychain is different from the publicly viewable one in settings

If that's true (and only the app who stored the item can retrieve it) I wonder who is responsible for GDPR regarding its storage.

Is the app responsible? But it cannot even access the data after it is deleted.

Apple? They have no idea what the data is.

User? They don't even know about the data and cannot access it either.

No one?

Re: How we turned the tables to catch my sister’s Bumble stalker

#200
post #3

Maybe obvious, but uh: don’t fucking do this! I get it, I'm an older brother, I would wanna go ballistic too. But the fact that these guys skipped over "notify the police" and went straight to "seek out in-person confrontation" is insane! Stalkers are not people in their right mind. Staking out and planning to “citizen’s arrest”(???) someone who has repeatedly visited late at night to threaten and harass is NOT SAFE…

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