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Re: Ask HN: Do you hate software engineering but love programming?

#191

Honestly, I might recommend looking for an entry level job in an industry outside of software that has somewhat struggled to keep up with the changing times. Find a company where people are manually transferring data from one spreadsheet to another, or where there is a huge backlog of data in need of processing with some manual step that can be automated. Write one-off scripts that will seem like magic.

Why would you want to work outside of a company's core competence?

Ideally, your core competency (programming) and a company's core business (software development) are identical or at least heavily aligned. This arrangement allows you to grow your competency since business core competencies can be very, very advanced.

Want to go deeper into code optimization and high performance? There is probably a critical piece of software in dire need of optimization. Want to draw diagrams? Some legacy systems need integration and solution architect's touch.

On the other hand, working at a company where your role is unaligned with the core competency, you usually hit the ceiling on the complexity of what's required from you pretty fast. Sure, there are a thousand different excel files in dire need of wrangling, but you are really hitting diminishing returns on your skill building after the hundredth one.

Re: Ask HN: Do you hate software engineering but love programming?

#192
I'm definitely a hacker/artist type vs engineer. I like shipping things, stumbling around, finding a path, not planning them out and executing that plan. By the time I've planned something I have to use all of my available executive function to force myself to do it.

So I tend to gravitate to early startup life where it's all chaos and unknown and getting things done quickly is most important.

Re: Ask HN: Do you hate software engineering but love programming?

#193

I am the exact opposite. I mean, I don’t like processes and meetings, but I do like the planning and architecture part much more than I like actually writing code. Usually, if your mind is decently organized, I find that the problem is solved before writing a single line of code. If that happens, then the actual part of writing becomes dull and mechanical - the problem has already been solved. I’ve never understood p…

I feel like I am in between. I learn better by doing but I think everyone thinks they have to move so fast, be agile, that they leave their shitty implementation doing the work instead of figuring out how to rewrite it into something more manageable.

You have to do the stuff you don't like to get to stuff you do sometimes.

Re: Ask HN: Do you hate software engineering but love programming?

#194
Perhaps you don't enjoy working for a software engineering organization. When the organization is concerned about methodology as opposed to getting the result, that can be a problem. Too often, I've been in organizations that found a new trend but never asked if it actually mattered. That being said, methodology does matter. We've all been around someone who just threw something together, it was our job to clean up the mess :-)

Re: Ask HN: Do you hate software engineering but love programming?

#197

> I have come to a realization that I don't really enjoy Software Engineering(& the processes that it comes with) but I do love programming & solving problems. I can almost guarantee that you’re just at the wrong company. Some software companies can turn even the simplest tasks into a grueling series of processes, endless meetings, and joint work across a big number of “stakeholders”. These companies will take the jo…

> Find a company that values programming and real productivity

What's an example of a company that values "programming" over the business?

Re: Ask HN: Do you hate software engineering but love programming?

#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a slight implication because it only covers men that women are the source of unhappiness (e.g. the nagging wife trope), but I agree it's trivial and likely unintentional. Agree with sibling, just as applicable as "happy married people are happy partners, unhappily married people are great philosophers".

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Re: Ask HN: Do you hate software engineering but love programming?

#199

I am the exact opposite. I mean, I don’t like processes and meetings, but I do like the planning and architecture part much more than I like actually writing code. Usually, if your mind is decently organized, I find that the problem is solved before writing a single line of code. If that happens, then the actual part of writing becomes dull and mechanical - the problem has already been solved. I’ve never understood p…

> I find that the problem is solved before writing a single line of code. If that happens, then the actual part of writing becomes dull and mechanical - the problem has already been solved.

I can relate to this so much sometimes. Right now I'm putting off programming because the ticket I have I've already thought through in my head and now I'm sitting here goofing off on here and reddit because I just don't want to do the actual work part.

Re: Ask HN: Do you hate software engineering but love programming?

#200

That's me... I loved coding, I did it in my spare time. Then I got a job it's been downhill since then. I thought maybe I was a junior. Then I thought I was at the wrong company. Then I told him maybe I was working in the role or programming stack?. But that's not it, I like writing code, I like refactoring code, I like debugging code but I don't like that it'd be held as a knife to my throat every day forever. At my…

10+ years for me. It wasnt like this when I started
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