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This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by thatguy0900 »

barking_biscuit wrote: post #183
vouaobrasil wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

>I firmly believe (and I have given this a lot of thought) that technology is ultimately evil, and that tech companies are trading short term gain of enormous wealth for the very essence of humanity, preying upon the basic instincts of individuals who are also trading their personal worth for convenience. I've more or less come to a pretty similar conclusion. I wouldn't characterize it as evil per se, but it's a fool…

I would put the optimal state around native American level of technology. At least some sense of medicine and first aid, food is largely figured out, but no real oppressive technologies figured out yet.

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Post by barking_biscuit »

piotr11 wrote: post #171
aleem wrote: post #80

They need to take this and similar AI and come up with better dubbing for movies in other languages. Netflix should really lead the way here with the amount of dubbed content that they currently possess.

Exactly (ElevenLabs dev here)! This is actually out mission - make all content available in any language and voice. Dubbing is where we are going!

If dubbing is where you are going... does that mean you're also going to pair it with deepfaking the videos to make the facial movements match the new vocalizations? Because that'd be a wild product.

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Post by thatguy0900 »

tucosan wrote: post #173
sanroot98 wrote: post #163

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I think ,it's not technology that's real problem ,it's that loss of ethics in domain of knowledge ,since industrial and scientific revolution ,we put more emphasis on reductionism and objectification ,even human are being objectified ,this disease of over rationalism plaguing to every domains of knowledge ,I think it's always been constant battle of rationalism vs romantics .

May I suggest you research the proper way to format commas? I know, proper form is a skill that has been lost with the advent of social media. I posit that the mastery of orthography is a precondition to be taken seriously even today.

i think english just isnt their native language, this seems pretty snarky.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by itvision »

didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

> to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse

Worse? We already have 8 billion people a significant part of whom are pumping sterile soulless content.

If anything it will heat up the competition in the creativity field and allow truly creative things to proliferate.

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Post by CM30 »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #190
CM30 wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But at the same time, there are tons of positive uses for things like this too. Imagine being a creator who wants to share their interests with the world, but hates their own voice or doesn't have the confidence to speak on camera. You could make a lot of people's lives better by creating content for YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, etc, but you wouldn't be brave enough to otherwise. Something like this could be i…

I think a great tool for this would be a cross over voice changer AI, so you could still speak naturally but then sound like the model voice, that way it would be a little less soulless.

Honestly, that would be incredible for so many purposes! vTubers and amateur media creators would love to be able to just speak and have it translated into their voice of their characters in a more natural way!

Would also be an interesting one for theme parks, since it could led the costumed characters speak in the voices of the relevant characters rather than remaining silent, which would add a lot to the sense of immersion there too. (something like the website on the other hand could let the animatronics, CGI characters and others hold conversations with guests too, which would also be neat)

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Post by berniedurfee »

didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

I’m hopeful that, as with most apocalypse-capable technologies, humans will adapt and overcome.

Humans will be different on the other side of this coming wave of simulation indistinguishable from reality, but we’ll be okay.

It’ll suck living through the transition though. Not looking forward to the crap tsunami on the horizon.

But as a species, we’ll adapt and survive as always.

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Post by [deleted] »

didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

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Post by dwighttk »

barking_biscuit wrote: post #178
didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

>As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse. My sentiments exactly. I think it's a bit of column A and a bit of column B. I'm reminded of the quote "everything has its pleasure and its price". The more expensive things are to produce, the the less of it there will be, but what…

>The knowledge (and entertainment) I've been able to access thanks for randoms on YouTube is pretty incredible, and I sort of always just accepted the avalanche of spam and clickbait that came with it.

Adblockers are amazing

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Post by taf2 »

pronlover723 wrote: post #84

What are the odds of this kind of thing being open source so I can use it at home. So far, most of the "good" text-to-speech systems are all commercial services https://aws.amazon.com/polly/ https://cloud.google.com/text-to-speech https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/cognitive-service... And now one is also a service. I tried using tortoise-tts on my M1. Generating a 7 minute speech took 3 days and, while bette…

You could try https://github.com/mozilla/TTS

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Post by riceart »

feoren wrote: post #111

Okay can I ask a question that has been bothering me for a long time? Why do seemingly all these text-to-speech programs attempt to produce spoken voice based solely on raw text ? Why don't they consume a MIDI-like text-markup language where you can write phonetic pronunciations along with markup about the emotion, volume, speed, etc.? I feel like this is a huge unnecessary roadblock holding back this kind of technol…

> I feel like this is a huge unnecessary roadblock holding back this kind of technology.

There are speech synthesis markup languages, like SSML. And targeting even lower level has always been possible with commercial speech engines.

Think about how tedious and time consuming it is to mark up a large amount of copy? Unless we’re talking about little hints here and there (which is also doable) it rapidly becomes more cost effective to just pay for voice talent. For this stuff to be appealing it really must be close to fire and forget.

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