Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

Post by somebody78978 » Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 6:38 PM UTC

lscdlscd wrote: post #178

whoopdedo wrote: post #158

What does the Bar have to say about being a customer of a business you're suing. Wouldn't this be more of a concern for the law firm than the venue? But I can see how this has a chilling effect if you can lose access to goods and services because you're taking legal action against the company. Reminds me of the story I heard, though I forget the details (or even if it was true), about someone retaining numerous law f…

You might be thinking of the Sopranos: SPOILER When Tony and Carmine are getting divorced, Tony consults with every lawyer in town, creating a conflict of interest and not allowing Carmine to use them.

Post by treis » Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 6:41 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #154

BizarroLand wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure why you would say that she has no case. On the one hand, it's a common understanding that businesses can bar anyone from their premises for any reason, and that would be the normal interpretation of this issue, but in this circumstance, the lawyer does have a legitimate response in that they have agreed to waive that authority in exchange for the permission to serve alcohol on premises. On the other han…

> That's a really good case for any competent lawyer and I'm pretty sure their legal team is not very happy right now. I'm surprised that the policy of banning litigating lawyers ever passed their legal department to begin with. It's just inviting a guaranteed headache without providing any additional legal advantage.

Post by godelski » Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 6:42 PM UTC

xapata wrote: post #166

godelski wrote: post #161

How did they identify her? Where is MSG getting the data for their facial recognition? This part is confusing to me (I assume some third party vendor, but that's besides the point). Do they have you upload a photo of yourself? Do they have access to driver license photos? If the latter, that's a serious issue that I think we should be talking about: private companies having access to government biometric data. It's a…

Probably from a photograph on the lawyer's website. They often post photographs of themselves looking pleasant and well-dressed, along with a summary of their careers.

Post by xapata » Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 6:43 PM UTC

vleon42 wrote: post #35

I am torn actually unsure on what would be morally correct: 1. I, as an individual, am allowed to deny entry to persons I dislike from my private property. 2. I, as an individual, am allowed to deny entry to persons affiliated with a business I dislike from my private property. 3. I, as a business owner (eg: a restaurant), am allowed to deny entry to persons I dislike (eg: a previous patron who was violent) from my b…

Post by theLiminator » Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 6:44 PM UTC

advisedwang wrote: post #57

vleon42 wrote: post #35

I am torn actually unsure on what would be morally correct: 1. I, as an individual, am allowed to deny entry to persons I dislike from my private property. 2. I, as an individual, am allowed to deny entry to persons affiliated with a business I dislike from my private property. 3. I, as a business owner (eg: a restaurant), am allowed to deny entry to persons I dislike (eg: a previous patron who was violent) from my b…

Your totally ignore the key element here: a new technology is allowing denying entry at a whole new scale. Nobody really has an objection to organization blocking a single individual who is might cause trouble. But blocking an entire class of people is a) newly enabled* and b) much more harmful to society. If a venue kicked out a lawyer who was actively working on a lawsuit against the venue, nobody would bat an eye.…