Live data from Hacker News

Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy

minbrowser.org

191–197 of 197 posts

Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy

#191
tried this recently but like most alternative browsers, if it doesnt have support for ublock or dark reader then im usually back to firefox after a day or so.

theres also another extension that i cant think of the name. it adds the url to the title of the window so that keepass/autotype can detect what site it is.

i have a few other extensions but i would be willing to forego them if the browser was that good

Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy

#192
post #163

I installed it (yes you can install this right away, the download button doesn't lead you to some signup form!) and played with it a bit. It's beautiful, but I feel that chrome has a better beauty/functionality tradeoff. Some differences vs chrome I noted: — no favicons — no addressbar — no skeuomorphic tabs All these things make it look more beautiful and elegant then chrome, but less functional.

> (yes you can install this right away, the download button doesn't lead you to some signup form!) Are there browsers you can download only after login?

Arc is behind a signup page and subsequent Arc account if you want to use it right now.

Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy

#193
post #36
post #29

"a fast, minimal browser [...] written entirely with CSS and JavaScript using Electron" - That sounds like an oxymoron to me.

Electron used to be much worse than it is right now. The project matured a lot. That being said, there still are some things to improve.

Like startup time. I looked at a white window for a solid 5 seconds before any UI elements were painted. That's on the latest 16" Apple MacBook Pro.

On the other hand, if you really like this browser, that may not matter. This week, I read about a new version of Firefox. So I closed it, and found out I had my browser running so long that Firefox needed to update twice.

Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy

#194

The Ladybird bowser - part of the Serenity OS - is another alternative I’m following with a mixture of astonishment, admiration and excitement - https://awesomekling.github.io/Ladybird-a-new-cross-platform... I suspect that for most people, it still has a way to go before it could be considered a daily driver, but the rate of progress is incredible and I’m sure it will get there.

Yup same. For me this is the only alternative browser project worth talking about as it is creating a web engine from scratch.

Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy

#195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Arch Linux Firefox package weighs in at 237.8 MB installed.[0] Meanwhile, Chromium is 20% larger at 285.8 MB.[1] Which other browser is significantly smaller than that? I checked a few other ones and they were all within spitting distance of Chromium. Also, that's not a useful comparison because web browsers are basically operating systems now, with how complex they are. Not to mention that Windows XP was release…

> "Which other browser is significantly smaller than that? I checked a few other ones and they were all within spitting distance of Chromium." Safari was 40-something MiB installed a few macOS versions ago before parts of it were migrated out of the app to become protected system libraries. The reason the others you checked are of the same size is because they are forks of the same two browsers. Add.: I just have to…

> The reason the others you checked are of the same size is because they are forks of the same two browsers.

Exactly. What's the alternative? Safari is nice if you're on macOS/iOS but isn't available elsewhere. Every other browser that has any semblance of market share is a fork of Chromium and shares its size. So I'm not sure how Firefox is "overstuffed" but other browsers are not.

> The complexity of an operating system, even a simplified one, is of a completely different sort and depth.

I agree with this, and it's obviously an exaggeration, but I don't think it's an invalid comparison. The API surface area that browsers need to support is enormous, and they have even stricter backwards compatibility guarantees than most modern OSes. Any browser worth using is going to be pretty large simply because they're complex beasts.

Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy

#196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made a pull request to Librewolf that adds a handy dialog to deal with just this issue: Warning: You are using Librewolf. Augment security posture with the appropriate countermeasures? Yes | No | Continue | Abort | Cancel | Cancel with augmented security posture | Speak to elf

Appreciate it, though I'm worried about the UX impact of having the correct choice (speak to elf) all the way at the end...

It's in a long line of well-known security UX practices-- what better way to teach the user the right choice than by guiding them down all the other paths first?

Here, let me tab-complete my pubkey so we can continue this discussion in private:

   -----BEGIN OPENSSH PRIVATE KEY-----
   b3BlbnNzaC1rZXktdjEAAAAABG5vbmUAAAAEbm9uZQAAAAAAAAABAAAAMwAAAAtzc2gtZW
   QyNTUxOQAAACBGCHC9jhyIIOyoFx5PP9wpaRE/8jIksP+ET++fca82pQAAAKCSve3okr3t
   6AAAAAtzc2gtZWQyNTUxOQAAACBGCHC9jhyIIOyoFx5PP9wpaRE/8jIksP+ET++fca82pQ
   AAAEDbv7BsaZKNPQZSGeT8IBMb2z+lNCpTLZ7VXprw84XsZ0YIcL2OHIgg7KgXHk8/3Clp
   ET/yMiSw/4RP759xrzalAAAAFnlvdXJfZW1haWxAZXhhbXBsZS5jb20BAgMEBQYH
   -----END OPENSSH PRIVATE KEY-----

Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy

#197
post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is also WaterFox, which I quite like as a secondary browser. https://www.waterfox.net/

WaterFox is owned by an advertising company called System1 https://system1.com/press/system1-welcomes-waterfox

Drats :/
Post reply on HN