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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by grujicd »

amarant wrote: post #181
nonrandomstring wrote: post #128

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This is one more very good reason not to indulge the insanity that is a "cashless society". If you let go of those government issued bills be sure that in no time at all you'll have nothing but fragmented, private "smart" currencies each hobbled with its own insidious restrictions.

I mean, I don't really see that happening. Sweden is for all intents and purposes cashless these days, and I don't think we have more giftcards now than we did in the 90s when cash was commonplace. To clarify about the cashlessness of Sweden: cash still exists, and you can still get government printed bills, but many places have stopped accepting them, and these days whenever someone has non-foreign cash it becomes t…

How do you give money to kids? Where I live if you're under 18 you can't get any kind of bank card.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by sgerenser »

tempestn wrote: post #49
sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

We pay for stuff by check all the time; as a Canadian business with vendors in the US, it tends to be the most convenient and inexpensive way to make payments of significant size. Our bank in the US has a feature where it will mail a check to anyone in the US from your account, free of charge (aside from the funds being sent, obviously). Certainly seems bizarre that sending a physical piece of paper through the mail…

Most bank accounts in the U.S. have this feature, it’s called “online bill pay.” They do actually pay larger companies (utilities, mortgage, corporate landlords, etc.) via ACH transfer. But for any biller not so set up, they just mail a paper check.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

jjav wrote: post #71
sharkjacobs wrote: post #4

Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Open call: Anyone out there paying or receiving payment with cheque in the last ten years?

> Are cheques even used for anything except for fraud anymore? Based on the cheques spelling I guess you're not in the US. Checks are very common here, I write them every month. In theory I could pay my water bill by credit card but their payment portal is so randomly broken that I save a ton of headache by writing a check and dropping it off at their payment box. My office lease only takes checks. Various other rent…

I'm not sure if it's an age thing but I live in the US and am mid-30s. I rarely, if ever, write checks. The only time I interact with checks is as a gift and I'm cashing it. Writing checks is a smell - if I can't use Zelle/Venmo/etc, it's an issue.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by aabajian »

For everyone who is commenting on the grammar/spelling mistakes, this is on-purpose. It dramatically increases the positive predictive value of their scam (i.e. the probability that the victim they have messaged on day 1 will go through with the wire transfer on day 5). It does this by pre-filtering the general population for gullible individuals.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by sgerenser »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #162
toast0 wrote: post #38

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I've never written or deposited a cheque; I don't know that I've even seen one. But checks are alive and well in the US. Contractors like them, I've written them to myself to transfer money between accounts when electronic transfer restrictions are too painful, etc. You may as well start spelling it the US way, because we'll still be using them ;)

>Contractors like them, Can cheques in USA be cashed out? I mean, can a contractor take a check to any bank and exchange it for cash or do they have to be paid into an account (and money accessed 3-5 days later)? I only ask because usually contractors want to avoid cards/back transfer did they don't have to declare the income and can do tax fraud. Back in the 80s in UK you could "cash a cheque" meaning take it to a b…

Checks can still be cashed in the U.S. either by going to the bank it was written on, or to a “check cashing” place that tends to operate in the poorer section of towns, near pawn shops and rent to own furniture stores. Those places charge rather outrageous fees, but they’re taking fairly large risks of being scammed relative to a bank.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by sgerenser »

kwhitefoot wrote: post #102
ericbarrett wrote: post #35

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In the U.S., a lot of places that take payments, including state and county government, only take credit card payments through processors that charge additional fees. I've seen as high as 5% with a $50 minimum. But if you pay with a check, no extra charge.

That's bonkers! It costs at least an order of magnitude more to process a cheque than a credit card transaction. And debit cards are even cheaper.

Not in the U.S. The interchange fee alone is at least 1% for a credit card, typical all-in fee to the merchant is 2-4%. Checks cost almost nothing in comparison.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by adammarples »

jestarray wrote: post #23
nigamanth wrote: post #6

To be honest, one can easily realize that this "Marc Cannon" is a fake with the amount of spelling and grammatical errors he makes. Real professionals do not make spelling and grammar errors such as: "Do you have any other question ?" "Good morning how are you this morning." "I will send you later" "Good morning, How are you doing today ?" "This is very disrespectful and all director are to meet you for training on m…

I was not in the right state of mind, my brain weirdly skimmed and auto-corrected grammar mistakes. I thought it was weird but I was just happy and yet busy to think about it further.

I have read that the poor spelling in scams is on purpose, it filters people out early on. Anyone who overlooks the poor spelling and grammar is more likely to continue

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

the_gipsy wrote: post #147
ryandrake wrote: post #48

Great job figuring out it was a scam but honestly, it’s crazy that these things still work on anyone all the way in 2022. You would think that by now every human being that walks the earth would know that whenever someone you don’t know sends you “money” and then requests you send it back (or to another party) in a different form, it’s always a scam. There should be some ceremony whenever someone turns 16 or somethin…

What amazes me is that americans still use cheques, that aren't "cleared" up to a week or so. That's ridiculous.

And Dwolla exists, which is better in many ways!

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by smeej »

jaclaz wrote: post #190
jestarray wrote: post #69

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Actually I was not threatened that I was stealing if I didn't wire! I wish I was though because that would have definitely given it away. The receipt of my bank deposit they asked me to take a picture of just had more than enough to pay! I remember double checking the receipt in-case it had too much personal information and even was aware that I didn't want to show my balance but something in my brain just didn't com…

Besides all the other red flags, what would have (probably) triggered an alarm would have been the actual list of equipment (and its generic content). Set of furniture? Copiers ? Graphics generator and software? Data storage and Microfiche ? High speed Internet access? All coming from a same supplier, the same that provides the Mac and the "Dual Monitors", maybe it is "normal" in US, but elsewhere there would be seve…

Microfiche in particular cracked me up.

I'm in my mid-30s and barely old enough to know what microfiche even is!

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