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The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by rob74 »

yawn wrote: post #23
vel0city wrote: post #4

The digital boards in hockey can get really annoying even when they're working as intended. Animating them should definitely be banned and I wouldn't mind seeing the digital ads disappear entirely.

I was shocked as a non-hockey fan to see an ad of a car driving along the wall during active play. My eyes instinctively moved to the ad away from the puck. It was gross. As an NBA fan, I hate how ads keep getting crammed into every piece of equipment on the court, the jerseys, etc.

Over here in Europe that's now business as usual during soccer matches, and also biathlon, where a car follows the athletes on the billboard while they are skiing up a slope. However those are actual physical LED displays, not virtually inserted.

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Post by Gordonjcp »

maskros wrote: post #18
e1ghtSpace wrote: post #12

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How soon will content makers make their content look like ads to force these algorithms to fail?

That's already happened ... just look at how many youtube channels have integrated a "and now let's briefly talk about my sponsors" segment in the middle.

I don't mind those if it's a good piece about the sponsor and I like the content.

If it's a 10:01 waffle piece with a huge sponsor segment before you get to the good stuff, I won't watch it.

Let's Game It Out is a great example of how to do the sponsor piece. I want to watch him take the piss out of the sponsor as much as the game.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by amelius »

Firmwarrior wrote: post #105
harry8 wrote: post #54

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mythtv is still pretty great fwiw. Auto flagging ads is pretty good, but even don't bother, just using kodi as a front end with the plugin and skipping forward 3 minutes when an ad comes on does most of the job. (sometimes you do another 30 seconds or 1 minute and you get really good at it). Start watching your program 10-20 minutes late and no ads. Live sport is the only place I see tv ads at all nowadays - hence th…

Hey, do you have a good way to communicate this to normies? I haven't had any luck explaining to my wife that advertisements are basically a sort of cancerous meme designed to deliver misinformation and manipulate you into wasting your money on products that focus more on self-promotion than quality or value. I just sound like a jerk and she somehow takes it as a personal attack

Tell her that ads are designed to make people buy stuff, and this causes overconsumption which is bad for the planet.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by yreg »

yawn wrote: post #23
vel0city wrote: post #4

The digital boards in hockey can get really annoying even when they're working as intended. Animating them should definitely be banned and I wouldn't mind seeing the digital ads disappear entirely.

I was shocked as a non-hockey fan to see an ad of a car driving along the wall during active play. My eyes instinctively moved to the ad away from the puck. It was gross. As an NBA fan, I hate how ads keep getting crammed into every piece of equipment on the court, the jerseys, etc.

If anyone has clips of such horrible placements, please do share.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by smcl »

grishka wrote: post #181
yawn wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was shocked as a non-hockey fan to see an ad of a car driving along the wall during active play. My eyes instinctively moved to the ad away from the puck. It was gross. As an NBA fan, I hate how ads keep getting crammed into every piece of equipment on the court, the jerseys, etc.

As not a fan of professional sports, every time I see a sports game on TV, I feel like the game itself is secondary. It absolutely feels like an advertising show with the unimportant addition of people playing something.

Which sports, specifically? I watch football and rugby and while both have a lot of advertising (in stadia and on jerseys) TV coverage is still very clearly focussed on the sport itself

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by i_am_proteus »

midoridensha wrote: post #185
Godel_unicode wrote: post #180

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I assume you’re similarly unbothered by googles domination of search because rather than searching for information you could be baking a cake?

I don't know about you, but I don't use Google search much, I use DDG. So, no, I'm not bothered by Google's domination when I actually don't use it much. Doesn't seem to be "domination" to me.

I use duck duck go dot com to search the internet also, but I still get plenty of search results informed by people interested in gaming the algorithm used to display results on google dot com.

Can't right say that I'm unaffected.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by i_am_proteus »

Firmwarrior wrote: post #105
harry8 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mythtv is still pretty great fwiw. Auto flagging ads is pretty good, but even don't bother, just using kodi as a front end with the plugin and skipping forward 3 minutes when an ad comes on does most of the job. (sometimes you do another 30 seconds or 1 minute and you get really good at it). Start watching your program 10-20 minutes late and no ads. Live sport is the only place I see tv ads at all nowadays - hence th…

Hey, do you have a good way to communicate this to normies? I haven't had any luck explaining to my wife that advertisements are basically a sort of cancerous meme designed to deliver misinformation and manipulate you into wasting your money on products that focus more on self-promotion than quality or value. I just sound like a jerk and she somehow takes it as a personal attack

This is very hard and I wish I had a good answer, but all I can do is commiserate, really.

Most of the time when I try to float the idea that advertising is making someone sad so that they make purchases, that person tells me about the Great Products they discovered through instagram.

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Post by refurb »

AlexandrB wrote: post #135
canucker2016 wrote: post #75

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It's even worse when the hockey players' white uniforms confuse the video effect algorithm into thinking the uniforms are part of the board and the algorithm paints the uniform with part of the ad. see https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-fans-are-already-fed-up...

> "Like anything else, you're going to have your people that don't like it, that think it is difficult to watch. But over time, like everything else, people will get used to it, and we're not concerned at all whatsoever," Keith Wachtel, the NHL's chief business officer and executive vice president of global partnerships, told ESPN ahead of the season. Wow. That statement is dripping with contempt for their viewers. I…

I don’t think it’s contempt.

If viewership stays the same then “they got used to it”

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Post by macintux »

jasmer wrote: post #92
kenjackson wrote: post #65

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I'm probably the only person, but I feel like the tradeoff in value I get for advertising is reasonable. Would the world be a better place w/o ads? Maybe, but I don't see how you avoid a world where there are competing products and one tries to convince you somehow to use their product/service. It seems almost as natural as requiring payment for providing a service.

You'd be surprised at how ineffectual a lot of advertising is. Billboards should be just wiped out, there isn't any real utility from them, and for the most part they just make things very ugly. Having giant ads in public spaces is ridiculous. You really notice it when you go to a place with not much in the way of regulation and they are everywhere. Around Paris they have giant neon signs on top of residential buildi…

> Billboards should be just wiped out, there isn't any real utility from them, and for the most part they just make things very ugly.

When traveling interstates across the U.S. they’re valuable, because they let you know what you didn’t think to search for online to visit along the way.

(Plus obviously searching for places to visit while driving is dangerous, or merely seriously inconvenient if you have to frequently stop to conduct said searches.)

I’m a fan of old-fashioned billboards on the interstate in rural areas where local orchards/attractions/restaurants need to get the word out. I just don’t want digital billboards blinding me at night.

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