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Here is an actual source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/ukrainian-government-launches... Quote: “Aid For Ukraine shows how the global crypto community and the traditional financial system can work together,” said Solana Labs co-founder Anatoly Yakovenko. “Crypto donations to the DAO are stored and governed on-chain, then transferred to FTX, a centralized exchange, to be sold for fiat USD sent via SWIFT to the Ukrain…

How can we know who sent it though? You can't state the truth as one way or another, at least not yet.

We certainly don't have any evidence for the extraordinary claim that the divided government is embezzling funds into cryptocurrency, and then convincing the entire government of a sovereign nation to embezzle them back to one political party.

You could say we don't have proof that Rishi Sunak isn't an alien from Alpha Centauri sent to Earth to eliminate donuts without holes, but you don't just make up extraordinary claims for no reason. It is logical to assume the simplest, boring thing is the truth unless you have evidence otherwise, a la Occam's razor.

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It's incredible that SBF was being touted by Sequoia, WEF, Fortune, chumming it up with Clinton and Blair in the Bahamas, getting meetings and kid glove treatment with the SEC, relatively glowing profile as a "do-gooder" by the NYT. All while FTX had a Chief Regulatory Officer who was basically a career white-collar criminal. It beggars belief that anyone who dug half an inch into this story wouldn't have seen 90,000…

> a "do-gooder" by the NYT. sbf was giving tons of cash to the democratic party so NYT cant find anything bad to say about him

I'll have you know he donated to both sides: He also gave $5,800 to 6 different left-leaning Republicans.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/10/21/the-w...

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It's incredible that SBF was being touted by Sequoia, WEF, Fortune, chumming it up with Clinton and Blair in the Bahamas, getting meetings and kid glove treatment with the SEC, relatively glowing profile as a "do-gooder" by the NYT. All while FTX had a Chief Regulatory Officer who was basically a career white-collar criminal. It beggars belief that anyone who dug half an inch into this story wouldn't have seen 90,000…

With every crypto collapse there seems to be an associated failure by the media to do any real digging. The same thing happened with Theranos where, with a few exceptions, the media fawned over Elizabeth Holmes. It's hard to tell if the media has gotten worse at their jobs or they've always been this bad and I'm just getting older. There are plenty of earlier scams and bubbles (Enron, dot-com bubble) that slipped und…

It's not the media's fault these people commit crimes

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It's incredible that SBF was being touted by Sequoia, WEF, Fortune, chumming it up with Clinton and Blair in the Bahamas, getting meetings and kid glove treatment with the SEC, relatively glowing profile as a "do-gooder" by the NYT. All while FTX had a Chief Regulatory Officer who was basically a career white-collar criminal. It beggars belief that anyone who dug half an inch into this story wouldn't have seen 90,000…

With every crypto collapse there seems to be an associated failure by the media to do any real digging. The same thing happened with Theranos where, with a few exceptions, the media fawned over Elizabeth Holmes. It's hard to tell if the media has gotten worse at their jobs or they've always been this bad and I'm just getting older. There are plenty of earlier scams and bubbles (Enron, dot-com bubble) that slipped und…

You need to have massive balls to go after billionaires and their army of lawyers.

And the public doesn't help with their hero worship of tech douchebags.

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It's incredible that SBF was being touted by Sequoia, WEF, Fortune, chumming it up with Clinton and Blair in the Bahamas, getting meetings and kid glove treatment with the SEC, relatively glowing profile as a "do-gooder" by the NYT. All while FTX had a Chief Regulatory Officer who was basically a career white-collar criminal. It beggars belief that anyone who dug half an inch into this story wouldn't have seen 90,000…

With every crypto collapse there seems to be an associated failure by the media to do any real digging. The same thing happened with Theranos where, with a few exceptions, the media fawned over Elizabeth Holmes. It's hard to tell if the media has gotten worse at their jobs or they've always been this bad and I'm just getting older. There are plenty of earlier scams and bubbles (Enron, dot-com bubble) that slipped und…

> slipped under the radar

No, sorry, that is their job description. But since we're using radar as analogy, let me introduce to your new friend, IFF (Identify, Friend or Foe).

Re: FTX collapse, Tether operations have links to online-poker cheating scandals

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It's incredible that SBF was being touted by Sequoia, WEF, Fortune, chumming it up with Clinton and Blair in the Bahamas, getting meetings and kid glove treatment with the SEC, relatively glowing profile as a "do-gooder" by the NYT. All while FTX had a Chief Regulatory Officer who was basically a career white-collar criminal. It beggars belief that anyone who dug half an inch into this story wouldn't have seen 90,000…

> It's incredible that SBF was being touted by Sequoia, WEF, Fortune, chumming it up with Clinton and Blair in the Bahamas, getting meetings and kid glove treatment with the SEC, relatively glowing profile as a "do-gooder" by the NYT.

That's the real story here.

I transcribed a discussion between Chamath Palihapitiya and Brian Armstrong and others talking about this. Here's what he was saying about all these people who've been very blind and didn't do any due diligence:

"I just want to say the second uncomfortable thing out loud which is there are a lot of venture firms in SV in this period of both not doing any work or due diligence who also took the extra step and actually created classes and teached teams how to create these tokens.

And those artifacts --those video links and artifacts-- are sometimes on their website, they're still on YouTube, they're inside of Twitter, and what these folds would do when we talked about this, the game that they played was they would get a team they would create a token, they would also buy equity at a crazy valuation, the equity was locked up but the tokens were not, and then they would put them on an exchange and sell them to unsuspecting people and they would be able to dump these tokens and if you look inside that trend those were the trend of "securities" instead it was done in an unregulated way.

They're going to start to look at a bunch of other tokens and token sales and you're going to end up looking at some very well known venture firms in silicon valley.

That token is not the only token that's been engineered by SV firms and it is also no the only token that's going to zero that's been engineered by SV venture firms site.

There's videos (still) today on some of the most well-known Venture firm sites on how to do this.

They're instructing people how to do this. It's what they did.

but I really also hope they figure out these other tokens as well ... ... and you will see these are unregulated securities that were sold by our brethren..."

It is, to me, about much more than "cryptocurrencies are scam".

Many in SV are deep into this. There are officials and ex- officials implicated too.

People have been dumping worthless tokens created by the tens or hundreds on people all the while the media were presenting SBF as an altruistic trustable white knight.

That's the real story here.

Complete with SBF being the biggest or second biggest donor to Biden's campain for presidency though a fund which SBF's mom (a lawyer and teacher at Stanford) was running. And SBF's father, also a lawyer and teacher at Stanford, recorded explaining how he's helping FTX with charity and regulations.

> Crypto turned into a haven for replaying every form of financial fraud ever invented on an epic speedrun against retail "investors", and a whole lot of powerful people and institutions have dirty hands. The idea all of this could be adequately explained by stupidity rather than malice strains credulity.

Exactly. I'm glad some at least this for what it actually is.

Thankfully some people warned and described the very scam SBF was pulling the day FTX launched (in 2018 ?). Before that several had already noticed Alameda Research was behind crypto market manipulation and pump and dumps of shitcoins.

The signs were all out there and nobody looked.

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> a "do-gooder" by the NYT. sbf was giving tons of cash to the democratic party so NYT cant find anything bad to say about him

I'll have you know he donated to both sides: He also gave $5,800 to 6 different left-leaning Republicans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/10/21/the-w...

that's not much compared to the $40 millions he gave to the democrats...

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The first statistic you link is a newsroom statistic. This cut makes sense, because newspaper now get their news from big agencies. Newsrooms are completely different from investigative digging into stuff.

But who collects the stories for the agencies - it used to be the local reporters who are the ones gone. This is the point of the statistic I am in UK and look at my local papers - the number of stories is massively down and the report numbers are much smaller. One reporter now for several London boroughs when there used to be several for one. Who is looking at local government now?

No one, and (though I'm not sure this is true in the UK as well, though I imagine it is) it's pretty much 100% private equity's fault. They bought up every local paper they could, saddled them with the debt (how that's a thing that's allowed in accounting I will never understand), and then claimed the Internet killed them.

Yes, news orgs could have adapted faster, but most privately held papers were in the black. Only when the debts and insane growth expectations were added were they dying.

Private equity is ruining modern democratic institutions.

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Wait, wasn't the NYT supposed to take a very critical look at everything in "tech", as a matter of editorial policy? Why were they giving such a glowing (no pun intended!) endorsement of crypto, of all things? Something doesn't add up here.

Crypto doesn't pose an existential threat to the NYT business model like social media and search do. I.e. The NYT is in the advertising business. Google, Facebook, et al are direct competitors.

> The NYT is in the advertising business. Google, Facebook, et al are direct competitors.

The NYT is in the "providing content to lure people to advertisers" business. They don't sell ads to third parties. They could be very symbiotic with Google, for example. If Google was searching their content, bringing readers in, and supplying ads. But, instead, Google scrapes their content and helps people never visit their site at all.

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To Democratic Primary races. To get the pro-crypto candidate over.

What a lovely democratic process it is, candidates weighing up which industry interest has done the best job at wooing them. SBF is another reminder of how far down the list of priorities integrity actually sits (not that he succeeded here, but that he's in good company in the approach).

And one of the great innovations of crypto is sending untraceable money to corrupt politicians.

The Chinese banned it. Unfortunately Americans genuinely believe they are above corruption.

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