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Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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If one tablespoon of virgin olive oil a day is reducing the mortality risk to half, immagine the effect of two tablespoons of virgin olive oil.

Certain death.

you talk about cholesterol? My grandma got it.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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I do not like Amazon for many reasons (treating employees being the main). However I bought crapload of electronics there for personal use and for my business and it was fine either right from the start or was refunded / replaced without problems even when not being fulfilled by Amazon.

Is Amazon really that bad to work for? I had two roommates who were warehouse managers, and they didn't really seem to dislike their jobs much.

They employ over a million people. There’s going to be a pretty wide range of experiences.

I worked for AWS, it was one of the best jobs I’ve had and the only one in decades where I could leave the office, not think about work at all until I came back in, and not feel the slightest bit guilty or anxious about that. I know others have had a very different AWS experience.

Also anecdotally, I’d always chat to the facilities team/janitors at if they were in the kitchen while I was having lunch. All of them also worked shifts at the distribution center that opened up nearby. Their only complaint was they couldn’t get enough shifts there. It paid better than cleaning the kitchens in the corporate offices. Again, no doubt there’s a wide range of experiences.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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I do not like Amazon for many reasons (treating employees being the main). However I bought crapload of electronics there for personal use and for my business and it was fine either right from the start or was refunded / replaced without problems even when not being fulfilled by Amazon.

This works poorly when you buy something like an SD card, store something you care about on it, and then try to read it back off the card later.

It just generally works poorly without large amounts of luck. Lots of counterfeit or garbage goods will work okay at first but wear out quickly or just be dangerous to operate due to cheap parts.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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I dunno. If you taste olive oil from a trusted source (like at the grove where the olives are grown and perhaps pressed), and compare it with $random_storebought_brand, there's a major difference in taste. The difference doesn't make it objectively better for you, or even better tasting. But in a world where the phenomenon of olive oil adulterated with other oils is well documented[1], it's a legitimate question to a…

Gotta agree with this. I eat plenty of indestructible processed foods and whatnot, but had a friend who would harvest olives and have them pressed into oil. It's truly a different taste.

Another Middle-Eastern staple that fits this trend is Hummus. I have never had store-bought that tastes the same as fresh (I mean fresh fresh, boiled properly from source, not from canned chickpeas)

That said, I do think the parent is also right. Plenty of people are virtue signaling because it's trendy, not because of the actual difference.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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I am only speaking about taste but various italian olive oils I have tested are too... acrid in my opinion. In comparison, all greek olive oils I have had access to ranged from good to amazingly good. Speaking from the pov of someone whose main fodder is bread, olive oil and lettuce.

I am a big fan of the Spanish virgin olive oil at Costco (the one in the tall green bottle), so I got excited when I saw their olive oil from Italy. I thought it would also be great, but it tasted very very strange. I don't know what 'acrid' is, but the word sounds like what that oil tasted like.

Costco sells a few different Italian olive oils. The best flavor is the Toscano or Val di Mazara. (Which one they have varies from year to year.) They only have these for a while from late spring until they runs out, and it is the most recent October/November harvest. They are in tall square green bottles, perhaps similar to the Spanish you mention.

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Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

I recently had some very good Australian olive oil, Colbram brand. I expect there's less problems with fakery in Aussie EVOO, but not certain.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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> Where nobody can prepare food without olive oil. It's the law. Like everywhere else, Spain is a place where virgin olive oil is more expensive than the defiled version.

Depends where they did this research: outside the big cities (Madrid and Barcelona) and especially in the south, you can find enough places outside supermarkets where you can buy extra virgin cheaper than other oils in supermarket. Especially when you buy per 5 liter from local farmers (which is what I do). If you live there (or if the research was done there), there would be no point buying oil in the supermarket an…

That, and also if you've grown up eating EVOO, even not the best quality one you can get from the village etc, you won't tolerate other vegetable and seed oils in your food, and certainly not in your salad.

I had a friend from Canada who returned Home a while ago and he went to the supermarket to buy oil to put on his salad. He saw the price of EVOO and came back with a bottle of sunflower oil, scoffing about the "scam" of EVOO. A couple of weeks later he told me "well, it's really better though isn't it?" and he started buying EVOO after that. I don't know what changed his mind.

Anyway I get it that EVOO sounds like a class marker and I've no doubt it is, in some parts of the world. Another poster was talking about virtue signalling. But in the neck of the woods I'm from (the Mediterranean) it's just not considered posh, or hip, to buy good olive oil, nor do you ever hear anyone bragging about it. It's just how people eat, and they prefer the best quality stuff than the lower quality stuff. Of course, the low quality stuff also sells just because some people can't afford the good quality stuff, and I guess there's also people who are not used to it, even if they're born in one of the places that are famous for it.

There's just a completely different mentality about EVOO (and some other foodstuffs: bread, wine, cheese maybe) in some parts of the Old World. It's about culture and (gulp) identity rather than fashion and those preferences will not change when EVOO (etc) goes out of fashion.

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Virgin olive oil has a strong flavor and very low smoke point, which makes it unsuitable for most types of food. You may like the taste of olive oil better than vegetable oil, but it’s kind of weird to taste olive oil in most foods. Kind of like how you wouldn’t but blue cheese on everything, or truffles on everything, or bacon on everything, even if you like the taste of those things—they taste a bit weird when comb…

> Virgin olive oil has a strong flavor and very low smoke point, which makes it unsuitable for most types of food. Extra virgin olive oil (EVOO) doesn't have a "very low smoke point". This table on wikipedia gives the smoke point of "Extra virgin, low acidity, high quality" EVOO at 207°C/405 °F: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point#Temperature The same page gives standard home cooking temperatures as follows: Pa…

Searing or frying meats on the stovetop can easily exceed 400f. Below sufficient temperature the process will take too long and the meat will dry out. A steak seared at 350f will likely have a non-charred exterior. Air frying dense meats after baking and pressure cooking also demands high heat to add a glaze and retain moisture.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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Greek olive oil is considered the best in the world and doesn't suffer from Mafia infiltration which is a huge problem in Italy [1] [2] [3]. Here is some good quality Greek olive oil available in US, reasonably priced, that you can buy without fear of adulteration or other shadiness: https://www.amazon.com/Terra-Creta-Kolymvari-Protective-Desi... https://www.amazon.com/Iliada-Extra-Virgin-Olive-Liter/dp/B0... The Gre…

It depends on where you live. If you live in California, you should not be purchasing Greek olive oil as it will oxidize by the time it gets to you. 100% Californian olive oil is the way to go for health. Or better yet just use coconut oil and butter/ghee.

olive oil has plenty of unsaturated fatty acids, butter/ghee less so, coconut oil is outright advised against.

use ghee for high temperature (pan frying), olive oil for salads and normal cooking (like tomato sauce) and leave coconuts on the trees.

Re: Only virgin type of olive oil consumption reduces the risk of mortality: study

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It's almost as if human nutrition and mortality are complex systems and a single foodstuff doesn't have any significant effect. Not only that but surely nobody is surprised that the people who can afford the more expensive version of a product live longer. Why have we not given up on this nonsense idea of miracle foods already?

So the study does not account/adjust for other factors. Very interesting.

It does, but at some point a bigger study will come along that accounts for more factors, and that will find there's no effect.
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