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One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by scarface74 »

enragedcacti wrote: post #180
scarface74 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you mean my perception that the EU is run by a bunch of bureaucrats who don’t understand technology, stymie innovation and don’t think about unintended consequences? Do you think there may be a reason that hardly any successful technology companies come out of the Eu?

maybe 'perception' was the wrong word, moreso attacking them on imagined grounds of legislating trivialities of message color instead of commenting on the actual (highly publicized) sweeping changes they are already making to attempt to address the problem.

That worked out really well with the 99 section 11 chapter GDPR. All it got us was cookie consent banners.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by scarface74 »

schroeding wrote: post #87
scarface74 wrote: post #53

What are the chances that the EU will come in a year and mandate that “all messages must have the same color” and use it as an excuse that having some blue bubbles and some green colors is harming the mental health of children?

Very slim, as this is appears to be a very american problem. It's normal for teenagers (and people in general) to have an Android phone in Europe. It isn't anymore in the US.

But yet, the EU is mandating the USB C “standard” without going into details about which part of the standard is required still requiring you to know whether the USB C cable will actually transmit data and at what speed will it transmit video (something that USB required iPads already do and is a standard), etc

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by thatguy0900 »

mdtusz wrote: post #139
browningstreet wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have heard of people saying they won't date green or blue bubble people But how many times, really? It's like the missing iPhone headphone jack. The press and bloggers hammered away at it for years, making sure it was an ongoing meme in all coverage, but... do people really care? Some people, sure.. but enough for the coverage? Same with bubbles.

Sidebar, but I care about the headphone jack issue and am still annoyed by it. Bluetooth headphones just aren't very good, and we've all gotten in the habit of buying a new pair every few years because they either break, get lost, are unsupported, or have bad batteries. I previously had the same pair of IEMs for almost a decade that had better sound quality, replaceable cables and eartips, and didn't ever run out of…

I'm down to just using a permanent audio jack to USB c dongle for phones and my computer. Very very silly.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by gigglesupstairs »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #96
lifeformed wrote: post #24

No one here read the article, it has nothing to do with it being green but with it being low contrast.

I'm not sure if you're imploring us not to read the article because the title sucks. Or admonishing us for not reading the article, because we've misunderstood it based on the title.

Title is kind of on point too because it is indeed a trick - a dark pattern - which is part of the topic of User Experience which the website uxdesign.cc specializes in. Also, it would have been hard to put the explanation inside title without making it too long.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by culturestate »

dghughes wrote: post #185
culturestate wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Europe has more effective telecom service Some of Europe has very effective telecom infrastructure, but that's far from universal.

Cries in Canadian :(

It could be worse. Service is so famously bad in Germany that they invented a word for it - Funklochrepublik, which basically means "radio hole republic."

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by golergka »

chinchilla2020 wrote: post #118
oneplane wrote: post #39

This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

> Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android

I haven't lived in a country where text bubbles used to be a thing, but I noticed this. People, even people who are smart and kind in other aspects, still cling to the easiest social cues. Doesn't matter if you wear a Margiela t-shirt or what you drive; your tinder date or a person who you just met in a bar will look at your phone and take notice. Personally, I was quite happy with Samsung flagship phones, and then not less happy with pretty cheap Xiaomi ones — they literally do anything I want in a phone. But after getting frustrated with how people read social cues, I moved back to iPhones and simply got myself the most expensive one, just for the sake of being easier to read for other people.

Obviously, it would be nice to be so laidback and independent as to not care what other people care about your wealth, but sadly, I'm not on that level yet.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by jeremy0x4a »

randomdata wrote: post #83
jeremy0x4a wrote: post #56

Whenever I see this iMessage/SMS, blue/green topic come up I descend into an internal debate that, as I get older, I am becoming increasingly familiar with. The debate is that one where I am forced to reconcile whether I am too far removed from popular culture to see how this is a real issue versus accepting that the issue is entirely contrived.

The nice thing about getting even older is that you soon won't care about such reconciliation.

I appreciate this, but I will still cherish the joy of yelling at the children on my lawn, as I slowly descend into comfortable curmudgeonhood.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by School-Cotton »

> This segmentation has then evolved into discrimination against green bubbles, especially among young smartphone users in the U.S¹.

The footnote is a link to a WSJ article that doesn’t back up that sentence at all, i.e. makes no claim that the issue is most prevalent in the US.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by scatters »

kube-system wrote: post #108
scatters wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WhatsApp doesn't have anywhere near the same lockin as Apple. You can run multiple messaging apps even on a low end android phone.

Lock-in through the network effect is lock in. The fact that it’s the de facto standard outside the US is quite a network effect. SMS by contrast is an open standard.

The network effect only results in lock-in if there's an obstacle to using multiple networks at the same time. Obviously no-one is going to carry around two phones, so that's how Apple achieves lock-in. By contrast, keeping two or more messaging apps running is trivial.

And SMS is irrelevant.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by enragedcacti »

scarface74 wrote: post #191
enragedcacti wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe 'perception' was the wrong word, moreso attacking them on imagined grounds of legislating trivialities of message color instead of commenting on the actual (highly publicized) sweeping changes they are already making to attempt to address the problem.

That worked out really well with the 99 section 11 chapter GDPR. All it got us was cookie consent banners.

Have a good one
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