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Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by skrowl »

huijzer wrote: post #177

> Google has historically been protective of their front page, why now? Probably for the same reason that Google is shutting down Stadia [1] and cutting staff [2], and the same reason that we see roughly one announcement of layoffs here on Hacker News every week: most people expect that we are going into a recession. For example, see the price of major indexes like the S&P 500 or the NASDAQ and plot it on a 10+ year…

It's not really a matter of opinion or what people think. We're already in a recession here in the United States, as we've had two negative GDP growth quarters in a row.

Anyone who says otherwise is likely just doing so for political reasons, as it's also an election year here in the United States, but to do so they'd have to literally change the definition of recession (they're trying but it's not working).

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#192

Post by henry_flower »

cr3ative wrote: post #28

Annoyingly, the new tab page used to have an exclusion for these "announcements". The flag was removed. I've ended up installing one of those "inspirational new tab page" extensions, just so I don't see an ad. I am sure that means someone else is siphoning my data.

use this one: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/blank-new-tab-page...

it's just an .html file with an empty body, no tracking & 5 lines of JS:

    window.addEventListener("load", () => {
      if (chrome.extension.inIncognitoContext) {
        document.body.style.background = "#53718e";
      }
    });

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by tech-historian »

Google has had house ads for its own products on the search homepage since at least 2010. I'd like to see a screenshot of the "banner ad" claimed by OP. Text ads on Google's homepage are nothing new. I don't see a banner ad on the homepage at the moment, I see a text ad for "Learn about the latest innovations coming to Google Search"

Anyone have a screenshot of said banner ad?

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#194

Post by princevegeta89 »

Don't know why it's so surprising. Google has had ads for Pixel phones right below the search box. I remember Stadia ads that showed up there too.

The newtab on Chrome is not even considered a web page so you can see those ads that show up there as a part of Chrome which is not so surprising either

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#195

Post by criley2 »

skrowl wrote: post #191
huijzer wrote: post #177

> Google has historically been protective of their front page, why now? Probably for the same reason that Google is shutting down Stadia [1] and cutting staff [2], and the same reason that we see roughly one announcement of layoffs here on Hacker News every week: most people expect that we are going into a recession. For example, see the price of major indexes like the S&P 500 or the NASDAQ and plot it on a 10+ year…

It's not really a matter of opinion or what people think. We're already in a recession here in the United States, as we've had two negative GDP growth quarters in a row. Anyone who says otherwise is likely just doing so for political reasons, as it's also an election year here in the United States, but to do so they'd have to literally change the definition of recession (they're trying but it's not working).

This is a classic example of how propaganda works. The layman's definition of recession, which has never been used officially or by policy-makers in America, is this bit about "negative GDP growth for two quarters".

But despite that not being how we've always determined recessions here, if you read the reply above, the user has literally invented a political conspiracy about their ignorance about economics. The layman's definition isn't right? It's more complicated than a one-liner on the news? No! It's a conspiracy!

This is EXACTLY how the propaganda is designed to affect them. Empower the ignorance such that layman's understanding is the only valid understanding, impugn the experts until economics is nothing more than an election year conspiracy.

For anyone interested in the truth of how recessions have been determined in the United States for the past sixty years, it's only about three paragraphs of information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bureau_of_Economic_Re...

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#198

Post by beej71 »

jhoechtl wrote: post #71
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #14

It was inevitable, you gotta get the infite growth from somewhere. Ane the next move will +1 this and so on, until google becomes less attractive than leaner competition. Because of inertia, legacy and people benefitting from the status quo, they won't be able to correct course. This is textbook "how empire falls" and why things that seem indestructible eventually dies like anything else. This will be the mile stone…

These days Bing is increasingly my goto search engine, my switching costs are essentially zero

Bing won't index one of my online programming books (original content, no ads, no SEO, all ages, free) for unspecified TOS violations that I can't determine. Their algorithm is broken. It makes me wonder what other legitimate content they don't index.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

#199

Post by ren_engineer »

londons_explore wrote: post #108
senko wrote: post #16

Notably, this is not Google showing random search/display ads. Those look like ads for Google's own product. I don't think this is the first time. IIRC, Google used to show an ad for Chrome if you used the search from any other browser.

I'm surprised they advertise their own product in those places... It's such an obvious thing for the EU to go after. "Google has a monopoly position in Browsers/Search, and (ab)used their homepage to advertise their entry into a new field of business, immediately giving it free advertising the competitors could never access." If I were Googles legal team, I would immediately put an end to such cross-product advertisi…

I've said the same, how is doing that any different from Microsoft using their OS to push their own products in the past when they got sued?

Having that stuff in Chrome would cost millions in terms of normal display ads for the number of impressions they would get

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by ren_engineer »

huijzer wrote: post #177

> Google has historically been protective of their front page, why now? Probably for the same reason that Google is shutting down Stadia [1] and cutting staff [2], and the same reason that we see roughly one announcement of layoffs here on Hacker News every week: most people expect that we are going into a recession. For example, see the price of major indexes like the S&P 500 or the NASDAQ and plot it on a 10+ year…

>most people expect that we are going into a recession

by the standard definition we are already in one, odds are we are actually going to enter a global depression and probably one worse than 2008

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