Live data from Hacker News

Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

whitehouse.gov

191–200 of 293 posts

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder why something like this takes 4 years to roll out? Is there a legitimate reason? Or is it lobbyist dollars at work already, buying time?

For the NSF at least, most grants are awarded for 3-5 years. When the last policy shift happened (all grant-supported publications need to be publicly released into the NSF's publication archive), it applied to newly awarded grants. 4 years should give most existing grants a chance to cycle out.

Why not make it effective for all new grants going forward tomorrow?

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#193

I’m not sure how I feel about this. On one hand this is great for transparency and progress but this is also paid for by US taxpayers so why should scientist/people outside of the US benefit?

Why should they not?

Because they are not paying for the research with their taxes and their governments are not reciprocating the openness.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#194

I’m not sure how I feel about this. On one hand this is great for transparency and progress but this is also paid for by US taxpayers so why should scientist/people outside of the US benefit?

Well, any country with import/export tariffs have people across the world that are taxpayers even if they are not citizens.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should they not?

Because they are not paying for the research with their taxes and their governments are not reciprocating the openness.

What do you think the first step toward that is, if not this.

The benefits outweigh the cost several times over.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should they not?

Because they are not paying for the research with their taxes and their governments are not reciprocating the openness.

There is no such thing as a published scientific journal available to only one country.

Nobody is saying that the government can't fund private research (as it surely does in the context of security, defense, etc). But that if research is _published_, it ought to be open access rather than behind a paywall.

Re: Guidance to make federally funded research freely available without delay

#200

I’m not sure how I feel about this. On one hand this is great for transparency and progress but this is also paid for by US taxpayers so why should scientist/people outside of the US benefit?

What is access like now, anyone can pay to access regardless of citizenship? If so, then it would seem most US citizens are paying twice to access the research anyways - the same deal as foreign countries. If this makes it free for everyone it's not really changing (most) anyone's relative cost - assuming I'm correct on the first point.
Post reply on HN