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Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by m3nu »

For hosting simple open source apps there is also https://www.pikapods.com. Not free forever, but fairly cheap at around $1.5/month for the typical app.

I'm a founder and we specifically don't focus on running custom apps, but a moderated selection that also gets updates and optimizations. Like an app store for open source web apps.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by ryantgtg »

Thaxll wrote: post #36

"The priority going forward is to support customers of all sizes who are betting projects, careers, and businesses on Heroku" Who in 2022 is actually using Heroku at serious scale? This is a dying service, no one sane want to bet on that.

Substack! They were down - again - a couple days ago, and the message was:

> You've requested a page on a website (substack.herokuapp.com) that is on the Cloudflare network. Cloudflare is currently unable to resolve your requested domain (substack.herokuapp.com).

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by bradgessler »

mpd wrote: post #176
bradgessler wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please let me know in the replies what you'd like to see at Fly that would make it as good, if not better, than Heroku. I recently started working at Fly to focus on making Rails & Ruby app deployments awesome, and of course Heroku set that benchmark almost a decade ago. I can't promise I'll get to everything, but I can promise that it will help me better prioritize what I should be focusing on to make Fly better for…

My big want here is containerized deployments with build + release steps to allow me to e.g. run migrations and after-deploy tasks (we use both). This prevented a move to Render for us previously.

Could you go into one more level of detail about your app? I think this will help me better understand content for some documentation.

Here's the rough bits of what Fly has:

1. There's a release command (https://fly.io/docs/reference/configuration/#run-one-off-com...) that runs after the container is built, but before its deployed. In Rails that's when a database migration would be run.

2. To run a task after the application is deployed, there's shell access. Here's what that looks like for running Rails tasks: https://fly.io/docs/rails/the-basics/run-tasks-and-consoles/

3. Pre-deployment/build commands can be run from the Dockerfile, like a Rails asset compilation. Here's a link to that https://github.com//superfly/flyctl/blob/master/scanner/temp...

I recognize that this is a lot for folks who aren't comfortable configuring stuff and want the "no-config ease" of Heroku, but it's at least possible on Fly.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by tptacek »

wutangisforever wrote: post #188

I don't get why heroku would do this, it's killing any customer who would start off small and scale up. I mean how much money could they possibly be losing from hobby dynos etc...

They're telling you why: having a free tier means allocating a lot of resources to fraud and abuse, which are rampant in hosting, especially now that you can convert hosting dollars almost directly to cash. It's a big problem, and I have every reason to believe they're being forthright about why they've made this decision.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Post by arthurcolle »

wutangisforever wrote: post #188

I don't get why heroku would do this, it's killing any customer who would start off small and scale up. I mean how much money could they possibly be losing from hobby dynos etc...

Salesforce acquired Heroku if you weren't aware. There's your "why" right there!
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