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What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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I’ve asked this repeatedly and never heard a good answer. The wealthiest countries are generally those that have _more_ cultural drinking (Germany South Korea Japan ) not less.

My theory is that people in these countries are the opposite of drunk without alcohol, which is good for productivity, but needs compensation in social situations.

arab and muslim countries are very productive? can you give some examples?

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Alcohol absolutely does help social anxiety by improving mood and lowering inhibitions on a brain chemistry level. There are plenty of factual and scientific reasons to dislike and discourage alcohol, the "it's all in your head dummy" angle isn't one of them.

If it was simply on a brain chemistry level, why does it work so differently in other times and places? It's an example of bad high-status science suppressing good low-status science. Neurochemists asking, "Why does alcohol make us do this?" without checking with cultural anthropologists if it actually does make us do this, or if it just makes "WEIRD" people do it. I did not say it was all in your head, by the way. T…

I understand your point and would have to read more deeply about it, but these things exist on a spectrum. Anxiety reduction, talkativeness, etc. might very well be socially induced with alcohol making you significantly more susceptible to the social cues. That isn't any more placebo than any mood altering substance.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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One thing I've not seen mentioned in this thread is the enjoyment you can get from the wide expanse of flavours & mouthfeels of different alcoholic drinks. Most of the comments seem to be focussed on people drinking either to help with social anxiety or just to blot the world out, or as one poster put it "to dissociate with reality". I really love exploring different drinks, mainly beers and spirits although I do sti…

That is ridiculous. Alcohol tastes like poison. It does not in any way enhance the flavor of any beverage. Small dilute amounts just are less noticable.

I disagree that it does not enhance the flavours, it is quite a significant factor IMHO.

Regarding it tasting like poison, I can't really comment on that other than to say I would think many people have a similar initial reaction to coffee or chilli for example. They bombard the senses and until you attune yourself in to them can be quite overwhelming.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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non alcoholic beers have only gotten better over the years. thats my go to unless its a big big life event.

Can you recommend some (non-weirs) in Europe? I used to buy some from the UK but after Brexit they stopped shipping to the EU and all the ones I find have this 'non-alcoholic flavour' that I can't pinpoint but ruins the experience to me. That or they are somewhat sweet, which I Hate.

Aldi brand non alcoholic ones are actually ok, and can hit the spot, but wouldn't call them 'good!

And forget about non-alcoholic wine, that shit is awful.

Being buying low alcoholic gin (Beefeater 20%) and whiskey (Ballantines 20%). They are ok. Not perfect, but they have enough 'zing' to make them pleasant.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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> … most people here against alcohol sound to me like vegans. There’s a pretty big difference. Most people who drink don’t harm another living being, while those who eat animal products are supporting harm towards animals. I understand the vegan perspective but not the perspective of the use who criticize causal drinking.

> harm towards animals Killing perceived as causing “harm” (or not) is a somewhat non-trivial philosophical question. In an important sense, death is a social construct. From this point of view, the importance of one’s staying alive is measured by the impact on the society (starting with their family). The life of a chicken, therefore, doesn’t matter, with the exception when it is a pet. (At the same time, the life o…

That’s quite a reductive view to justify hurting a living being. Harm literally means “ physical injury, especially that which is deliberately inflicted” and a chicken whose throat is slit is clearly harmed. Animals don’t die instantly and it’s unreasonable to say “we aren’t harming a chicane by killing them if they didn’t produce value to society.”

I’d expect humans to have more empathy and not try or reason their way into needlessly killing a creature who doesn’t want to die.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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I’ve asked this repeatedly and never heard a good answer. The wealthiest countries are generally those that have _more_ cultural drinking (Germany South Korea Japan ) not less.

> The wealthiest countries are generally those that have _more_ cultural drinking I don't think this is correct but I think I understand where you're coming from. Looking at the top 10 countries by alcohol consumption for 2019 (below), it seems there's a good mix of wealthy and not so wealthy countries. Wealthier countries may seem to be bigger drinkers because they often have strong cultural exports (TV/music) and/o…

Compared to the set of all countries that’s very good company

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Alcohol is doing damage at scale vs crack which is doing damage to a much smaller set of individuals. See drunk driving deaths vs crack driving deaths.

It is consumed at another scale, so it does more damage in total. That doesn't make alcohol more harmful as a drug.

It does if you look at it overall vs per capita. If crack was consumed at the scale of alcohol, yeah that’d be a big problem, but I think that’s obvious.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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shouldn't there be some strong and measurable impact on muslim societies (which tend to drink no alcohol) compared to non-muslim societies (who tend to drink alcohol)? is saudi arabia governed smarter or are imams wiser than catholic priests? do they live or stay healthy for longer? having said that I am personally going through some changes. and for some reason I observed the past weeks how I don't enjoy drinking al…

If you wanted to scientifically study the effects of alcohol consumption among groups, you wouldn't take 5 people from one neighborhood, of one ethnicity, of one level of education, etc. and 5 people from a different neighborhood half way across the country of a totally different background, living under different circumstances, assign one group to drink, and call it a sound experiment. Similarly, alcohol consumption is not the only differentiator between Muslim and non-Muslim countries.

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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non alcoholic beers have only gotten better over the years. thats my go to unless its a big big life event.

Can you recommend some (non-weirs) in Europe? I used to buy some from the UK but after Brexit they stopped shipping to the EU and all the ones I find have this 'non-alcoholic flavour' that I can't pinpoint but ruins the experience to me. That or they are somewhat sweet, which I Hate. Aldi brand non alcoholic ones are actually ok, and can hit the spot, but wouldn't call them 'good! And forget about non-alcoholic wine,…

https://uk.athleticbrewing.com/

:)

Re: What alcohol does to your body, brain and health [video]

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Cure for hangover? Best cure is not drinking so much :) The hangover is your body telling you you did something not entirely healthy. You might want to listen to it. But if you must know: Drink water, that night, before going to bed. A good amount. Drink more water the morning after. A lot of your hangover is dehydration. Have a rich breakfast if you can eat it, or electrolytes (pedialyte etc) if you can't stomach th…

> The hangover is your body telling you you did something not entirely healthy. You might want to listen to it Does that also apply to people who drive themselves to the limit in sports? For example many people who do marathons or Iron Man events will feel rough and likely have blisters and bruises for several days. Some people doing sports end up in hospital as a direct result. Should they listen to the pain of thei…

> Should they listen to the pain of their body and not push themselves?

I don't know, let me think

> Some people doing sports end up in hospital as a direct result.

Oh, wait, I have an answer. I'm going to go with yes.

> I'm saying this as Devil's advocate

The devil has enough lawyers. A different profession might be a good choice.

Kidding aside: If you're actively damaging your body, you should think long and hard why you believe that's a good idea. However you're doing the damaging.

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