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New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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You seem to think that car manufacturers are extremely stupid

No I think that AI roadsign recognition is extremely stupid.

Thus you can assume it won't be relied on or its flaws will be adequately mitigated.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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>Also why is it safer? Because you spend less time and less distance in the "wrong" lane.

Which you should not have entered in the first place.

Your opinion is asinine. If using the lane at that time/place to pass was not suitable it wouldn't be signed/marked for such. Increasing the time it takes for people to execute a pass is a regression in safety from the status quo.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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Name two

Safety when overtaking. Wife in labor.

Dunno how exactly these systems work, but I assume it wasn't designed by idiots who never driven a car before and accounts overtaking. Warning should be only ON when sustaining the speed, not for few seconds.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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No I think that AI roadsign recognition is extremely stupid.

Thus you can assume it won't be relied on or its flaws will be adequately mitigated.

One of the most important things I learned during my short 43 years of life: Assumption is the mother of all fuckups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4trPZFUwc

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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AFAIK there's no need to show IDs to board a train in Europe (maybe some EU countries have other rules there, I don't know). For planes it will depend on whether you're crossing a border or not. Sometimes you get ID checks on domestic flights but that's because of airline policies (ie: fraud, insurance) rather than internal border control.

In the US, passport or biometric ID is now required for all domestic flights and intercity trains. YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE. Of course it is required in Europe. Where it is not required, you are already known. For example, if you live in Berlin you have no possible hope of getting to Brussels to attend a protest without every movement you make being put into a database. In America, we do still have one method of transport…

> Of course it is required in Europe.

That's just outright wrong.

On the last dozens of flights (it may be well in the 100s) within the Schengen area I hardly ever had to show id. And if so it was due to airline policy and checked at the gate.

You badge in automatically by scanning your boarding pass into the secure transit area and then once again fully automatically at the gate.

If you're admitted to the flight by ground staff on airports without automated gates they hardly ever check your id.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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First it's optional. Then they make it increasingly harder to disable. Then they make it mandatory. Surely everyone who has experienced abusive changes in software can see that pattern from a mile away? They aren't going to roast the frog, but instead boil it very slowly...

Well, cool. Speeding is the main source of accidents. Even escooters know where they are and reduce the maximum speed in some zones. Nobody ever was killed with an escooter. Why can't we restrict cars to the speed they are supposed to drive? It would make driving so much easier! Is there a right to break the law?

Yes, you have the right to break the law if you have the money to pay your tickets.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

#198

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First it's optional. Then they make it increasingly harder to disable. Then they make it mandatory. Surely everyone who has experienced abusive changes in software can see that pattern from a mile away? They aren't going to roast the frog, but instead boil it very slowly...

Well, this is like with all slippery slope argument. First they set the speed limit to 70, then to 50, then to 20, then you can't drive at all. So better not let them set any limit? What this is is just adapting an already extremely regulated field to the new technologies. Road safety and regulations has massively improved the safety of cars in the last few decades, therefore saving many lives. And yet, car driving i…

Especially with the earth's population being what it is, and if you want to believe in climate change too, maybe those fatalities are still too low...

Speed limits have always had a discretionary factor in them. A freedom of human judgment, if you will.

And indeed not being able to drive at all seems like it would fit in with the whole green globalist agenda anyway, so the slope is definitely slippery.

Edit: downvoting won't hide the truth, bootlickers.

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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I am not sure how you extrapolate me being against people driving from me being against people speeding . You can drive very well without speeding. Tracking is a different issue sure, but there is nothing in this problem that relies on tracking. You need to read the current map data and the position of the car via GPS. You need to write nothing (and given the privacy laws in Europe, I don't really see why we would).

Your assumption that no data will be written, about where/when/why your car automatically brakes, is incredibly naive. Everything is written the moment your car has a GPS tied to a wireless service. If you think European privacy laws are preventing that from happening, you're utterly insane. Even if your country doesn't store the data, the Americans are storing it and your country may ask for it at any time.

What do you know about how GPS works?

Re: New cars will stop drivers from speeding under European laws

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I said driving on the German Autobahn (I live in Germany btw.) is more stressful than driving on a same looking street that has a speed limit of say 130 like in Austria. Traffic flow is better when all people go at similar speed. Safety is better, pollution is better, noise is better and it makes not that much difference. Given the fact that air resistance is increasing quadratically with speed, that fast cars are lo…

yeah, as someone living close to the Austrian border and being over there very often... every single trip every nth car overtakes me when I'm going 130 as allowed. You just need to be local and know where you'll have to pay a fine. Depends on which of theirs though, the one from Salzburg to Italy isn't so bad, but the others are.

No need to be local just install Waze and you will see all cameras and policemen in the app.
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